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re: Duncan dies of Ebola

Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:42 am to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:42 am to
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Dude - he got on an airplane when he knew he likely had ebola. The only reason he got on the airplane was because he though he had it.
He didn't get on it to spread it. It isn't as if he thought, "Hmmm…if I go to the USA, I could spread this disease all over the place."

No. His thoughts were likely, "I'm going to die unless I get the best treatment in the USA."

Unless you consider survival instincts to be evil, I don't see it that way.

The guy is an a-hole for doing what he did, but if I was in his position, I might have made the same choice.

Stay in Liberia, get rejected by hospitals, and die or board a plane and fly to the USA with the hopes that they could treat me.

His actions were very selfish.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:43 am to
Is it y'all belief that he should've just gone to the middle of nowhere and died?
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:43 am to
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I would.



so would I.. if he died in a lot of pain, got what he deserved.

Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35487 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:46 am to
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Probably not the worst thing in the world. Had he survived, it would have increased the belief that we can cure the disease. Incentivizing others to try the same.
As sad as it is, this may very well be the one good thing to come from his death. Only a deathbed statement like "Damn, I got better care in Liberia." could have been better.

I wouldn't be surprised if he got better and his death was faked by the government. It would have been a consideration if I was president.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:47 am to
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hanks US gov.. Ebomba admin... you guys rock!!


Goddamn Obama and his Muslim doctors making that damn Ebola virus to kill us in their new world order.

fricking idiot
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:48 am to
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I wouldn't be surprised if he got better and his death was faked by the government. It would have been a consideration if I was president.
That doesn't make much sense to me. Which would you rather, a situation which could increase the fear of this virus, or one that could decrease it?

I'd choose the latter. It makes more sense from a societal standpoint to have the public believe he survived and we are able to treat it.
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Denver
Member since Feb 2013
5057 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:50 am to
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i don't want to say anything negative about a dead man, but what he did was pure evil


What did he do?
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:50 am to
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Goddamn Obama and his Muslim doctors making that damn Ebola virus to kill us in their new world order.

fricking idiot


when your children die from ebola, perhaps you'll question the open borders policy, til then I guess you'll dutifully parrot the party/govt line.

at least you know your place.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424128 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:55 am to
there are very few evil acts that aren't born out of selfish acts. i disagree that you have to intend evil to commit evil acts
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:57 am to
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when your children die from ebola
*sigh*

Damn the media. This years flu season is going to be fricking insane because of how badly they are blowing this out of proportion.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85176 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 10:57 am to
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This years flu season is going to be fricking insane
Yep
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7659 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:00 am to
I agree. We've had what? 3 people with it in the US? Hardly an epidemic.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10522 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:02 am to
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He knowingly, and deceitfully, put a lot of people at risk.


Where in the hell do you people get your news? He knowingly came in with ebola? He infected 18 people? Huh?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:05 am to
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We've had what? 3 people with it in the US?
1 person diagnosed here and 4 people brought here for treatment.

To those who think this man is evil, what about the people who were brought back here for treatment? Are they evil? What about those who brought them back?

They greatly increased the risk of spreading Ebola just by bringing those people here. Should've left them in Africa.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:07 am to
We've already had people ask about ebola because they went to school with people who were born in Dallas.

I don't think people fully appreciate how absurd this flu season will be. Everyone with vomiting and a fever is going to believe that they have ebola because they stepped foot in Texas or talked to a black guy.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:07 am to
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i don't want to say anything negative about a dead man, but what he did was pure evil

IMO it was definitely wrong, but I wouldn't call it evil, unless his intent was to deliberately spread Ebola. I would call what he did wreckless and selfish. By the way, it's being reported that he applied for his VISA on July 25, but I'm still curious to know when he bought his ticket. Anyway, the whole story is sad IMO.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52945 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:08 am to
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what about the people who were brought back here for treatment?


There is a difference between knowingly being in contact with Ebola patients, and not telling anyone about it, and exposing hundreds to the strain if you contract the virus vs. those knowingly exposed and properly isolated and transported back to the US to receive proper treatment that minimizes the risk of spreading to others.

One has a greater chance of spreading the deadly virus. The other has a greater chance of treatment and containment of the virus.

How are you not seeing this?
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 11:10 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56773 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:09 am to
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That implies malicious intent. He merely wanted to live and put his own survival above those around him to do so.

It was selfish, not evil.



Selfish behavior with no regard for the well being of others is absolutely evil. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive. You just found his motive.

Absolutely evil.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56773 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:10 am to
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He didn't get on it to spread it. It isn't as if he thought, "Hmmm…if I go to the USA, I could spread this disease all over the place."



No, he said, "I don't give a frick if I spread it all over the place as long as I give myself a better chance of living."

That's evil.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:10 am to
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He didn't get on it to spread it. It isn't as if he thought, "Hmmm…if I go to the USA, I could spread this disease all over the place."

No. His thoughts were likely, "I'm going to die unless I get the best treatment in the USA."

Unless you consider survival instincts to be evil, I don't see it that way.

He only knew he had been exposed to Ebola when he boarded the plane, he didn't know he had contracted Ebola. And remember, most people who are exposed to Ebola don't contract it.
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