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re: Dumb f**ks that scream “tax the rich more!”
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:15 pm to Ben Rumson
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:15 pm to Ben Rumson
We need to stop worrying about taxes and start being transparent about where the money is actually going. So much waste.
Trump is a complete disaster.
Trump is a complete disaster.
This post was edited on 10/4/26 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:16 pm to TROLA
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It’s a simple matter of earned vs unearned income. They are materially different.
Oh they sure are, lol
I think I pointed that out fairly well
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:16 pm to Ben Rumson
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Maybe I'm just a Warren Buffet type wanting America to do better and trying to educate those less fortunate than me.
Oh come on now, you are clearly person B in the “made up” scenario.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:17 pm to BabyTac
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We need to stop worrying about taxes and start being transparent about where the money is actually going. So much waste.
If there is no transparency how do you know there is waste?
By knowing there is waste wouldn't that mean there is transparency?
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:17 pm to BabyTac
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We need to stop worrying about taxes and start being transparent about where the money is actually going. So much waste.
Agree about the waste, but we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:19 pm to Ben Rumson
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Who looks like the dumb fricks that don't know who is actually paying the bills to keep this country going?
You think government keeps the country going.
We need poll tests so fricking bad.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:21 pm to Ben Rumson
I gave you an upvote on your initial post so you wouldn't feel bad about the 100 % downvotes. At the TD we care about peoples feelings.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:24 pm to Hickok
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Oh come on now, you are clearly person B in the “made up” scenario.
No, I'm not.
Well that would have applied to me for much of my career I guess, didn't have rich parents.
But I'm retired now. Biggest % of my investments are in various 401K accounts, but I do benefit some from the tax rates on the savings I have outside of the 401Ks.
Just pointing out that there are plenty of scenarios where the rich pay a lower % in taxes than the working middle class that's all.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:26 pm to Ben Rumson
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I popped in here occasionally over a couple years to read posts before I paid my entrance fee to post and so I know you are one of a handful on here that can't be reasoned with so you won't be getting any responses from me on anything you post. Not trying to be a butthole, it just is what it is. So, going forward if you think I'm ignoring you, it's because I am. You're not the only one.
This fricking clown.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:27 pm to Ben Rumson
We shouldn’t tax them more, but they should pay what they actually owe. A lot of the super wealthy use loopholes and don’t pay shite. If we actually collected it and used it properly it would help but the government sucks so frick it all.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:29 pm to bigberg2000
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but the government sucks
Well they are the rich. And we keep electing the rich.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:29 pm to Ben Rumson
I suggest we tax the poor more. The bottom 50% of earners only contribute about 3% to federal income taxes, but they cost us far more.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:32 pm to Trevaylin
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I gave you an upvote on your initial post so you wouldn't feel bad about the 100 % downvotes. At the TD we care about peoples feelings.
Yeah, I'm not believing that I'm laying this on 100% rich upper class but that's what it look like.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:36 pm to bigberg2000
If they are using legal loopholes then they don’t owe it.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:36 pm to fightin tigers
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Are you saying that wealth/assests should be taxed and not income?
Because your example would lead to that conclusion.
It sounds to me like he is saying the earnings off those assets should be taxed at the same rate. I find it difficult to disagree.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:37 pm to Ben Rumson
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Just pointing out that there are plenty of scenarios where the rich pay a lower % in taxes than the working middle class that's all.
Not really. Your scenarios are exceedingly rare
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:38 pm to Jake88
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I suggest we tax the poor more. The bottom 50% of earners only contribute about 3% to federal income taxes, but they cost us far more.
I think this comes from politicians that like to come up with tax % on the poor that pretend payroll taxes don't exist. Maybe that is because they don't exist for the rich, but they do exist for the bottom 50%.
It's impossible for the bottom 50% to pay only 3% in federal taxes when they pay 15.6% of every dollar they make on their W-2 in the form of payroll taxes.
15.6% of their earnings split evenly between the employee and the employer is generated to fund the social programs that the rich turn around and complain that they are too expensive when they ain't paying shite for it!!
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:38 pm to chryso
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It sounds to me like he is saying the earnings off those assets should be taxed at the same rate. I find it difficult to disagree
If this is so obvious, then why does every nation in Europe, Northern America, south smerica, etc have this same type of system (ie capital gains taxed at lower rate)
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:43 pm to Ben Rumson
A realistic proposal that is being discussed on one side of the aisle is changing the way we impose the payroll tax.
No serious person is proposing taxing cumulative wealth.
There is a ceiling on social security wage that goes up every year due to inflation and the fact that the program is running out of money.
One proposal is creating a gap past that ceiling but then bringing it back at $500,000 or $1,000,000 in income.
That is an example of a real idea, a serious idea that is being discussed by the mainstream politicians, probably mostly on the democrat side.
No serious person is proposing taxing cumulative wealth.
There is a ceiling on social security wage that goes up every year due to inflation and the fact that the program is running out of money.
One proposal is creating a gap past that ceiling but then bringing it back at $500,000 or $1,000,000 in income.
That is an example of a real idea, a serious idea that is being discussed by the mainstream politicians, probably mostly on the democrat side.
Posted on 10/4/26 at 1:46 pm to fightin tigers
Can we agree that there needs to be a better system that taxes the truly rich.
Right now they pay virtually zero taxes as an individual and their organizations profit vastly off the government they heavily influence $$$$.
I personally am against income taxes and wealth and a flat consumption tax would do the trick. Everyone pays it, nobody is exempt including businesses and corporations, it would really simplify things because you make it your only tax.
It will never happen, but would be the fairest model out there.
Right now they pay virtually zero taxes as an individual and their organizations profit vastly off the government they heavily influence $$$$.
I personally am against income taxes and wealth and a flat consumption tax would do the trick. Everyone pays it, nobody is exempt including businesses and corporations, it would really simplify things because you make it your only tax.
It will never happen, but would be the fairest model out there.
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