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re: DOJ Again Refuses to Give Judge Boasberg Sensitive Information on National Security

Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:24 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:24 am to
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This is why I asked earlier if TDA appealed their FTO designation within their 30 day window. I haven’t seen that.

Soros is bankrolling their defense.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
156540 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:25 am to
Holy crap. Boasberg cites CJ Roberts recent public statement saying he said not to disobey them.

Wow this is absurd.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
17091 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:28 am to
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They aren't terrorists

This doesnt matter
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
14443 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:28 am to
So your thoughts on are that no criminal gangs can be considered terrorist ? Do you believe that government has the complete authority to deport criminals ?
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
1968 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:29 am to
So you are stating that the ability for the executive branch to deport illegal aliens for our country is them acting outside their statutory authority?

Further, the executive branch is subject to judicatory review from a low level partisan judge.

This would be equal to a congressmen telling the Supreme Court that they can not issue a ruling until it has been reviewed by the execute branch.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
30808 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:42 am to
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the Supreme Court previously ruled that any Alien Enemy Act removals by a US President are not subject to judicial review.


exactly. it's been ruled on. this is just the dems shopping judges and trying to slow down trump.

problem is the general public doesn't understand this. the admin has to do a better job of messaging.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19903 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 11:46 am to
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They aren't terrorists


Says you. Why aren’t they terrorists? Is it because they aren’t little brown men from the Middle East?

quote:

In the United States, terrorism is defined as consisting of activities that "involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State….intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; influence the policy of a government by intimidation; or…affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping."


quote:

Aurora Police Chief Todd Chamberlain backed the closure, saying in a court filing that the complex had become a hub for crime because of a “criminal element that has exerted control and fear” over residents.


quote:

After the hearing, Chamberlain said he believed that members of Tren de Aragua were part of the problem there, noting that federal authorities say seven of the suspects in the kidnapping and assault are members of the gang.


Sit down and shut the frick up! Better yet, log out and do some fricking work instead of spending hours and hours arguing your dumbass talking points.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 11:47 am
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
9145 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:27 pm to
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Who has issues with that description of the admin's stances?


Anyone with a brain.

1. "Unilaterally" was used to pretend it was an overreach when it is the president's authority to designate terrorists
2. He did not invoke those acts to declare them terrorists. They were already declared terrorists.
3. It falsely claims that removing these terrorists sent here by a foreign government, which is proven, should not be a military operation
4. Once again "unilaterally" is used to pretend the executive branch who controls law enforcement needed outside approval to go after criminals
5. He describes basic functions of law enforcement as if they are outrageous actions
6. His final evidence that the admin is out of bounds is to simply reiterate their legal argument as if no counter to the argument was necessary. We should just accept that he is right and his derision is all we need as evidence.

#6 explains why you thought this was a good description. For such a short description, it has many flaws.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:30 pm to
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"Unilaterally" was used to pretend it was an overreach when it is the president's authority to designate terrorists

So in terms of government, it was unilateral.

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He did not invoke those acts to declare them terrorists. They were already declared terrorists.

By what authority? I'll add the citation.

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It falsely claims that removing these terrorists sent here by a foreign government, which is proven

It has not been "proven".

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He describes basic functions of law enforcement as if they are outrageous actions

Histrionic and not reflective of what I wrote

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His final evidence that the admin is out of bounds

Those words made no such commentary or judgment.

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For such a short description, it has many flaws.

For your 6 points, only 1 was valid. I'll include the citation upon your posting and edit my post.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:31 pm to
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So you are stating that the ability for the executive branch to deport illegal aliens for our country is them acting outside their statutory authority?

No. I have said the exact opposite.

This situation is not comparable to a normal deportation proceeding.

quote:

Further, the executive branch is subject to judicatory review from a low level partisan judge.

This would be equal to a congressmen telling the Supreme Court that they can not issue a ruling until it has been reviewed by the execute branch.

Not really. Bad analogy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:31 pm to
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So your thoughts on are that no criminal gangs can be considered terrorist ?

No. That is a strawman.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
13739 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:32 pm to
You're melting

Hard
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:33 pm to
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The thing is, it doesn't matter because the president is vested with the authority to proclaim a predatory incursion which was done.

So he can proclaim incursion against citizens domestically and that proclamation (and the actions done in furtherance of that action) are outside of judicial review?

The judiciary has no role in determining if the actions/assessments fall within the statutory authority granted to the President by Congress?

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The "terrorism" argument championed by some is a red herring.

The admin is relying on this. My post includes reference to their argument being a combination of this and the AEA.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:33 pm to
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You're melting

Naw. I'm eating lunch.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
58982 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:35 pm to
You’re eating a melt
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
13739 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:36 pm to
You meant to type "I've had my lunch eaten".

Take the L and move on, kid.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
4721 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:36 pm to
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You’re eating a melt


5 posts in a row
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:37 pm to
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You meant to type "I've had my lunch eaten".


I have not. In fact, I'm still waiting for people to answer pertinent questions to defend the stances.

"having your lunch eaten" is not reflected when the opposing side is too scared to respond.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51265 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:37 pm to
The illegitimate O'Biden regime ignored numerous legal challenges to their nation destroying EOs and the Gaslight Media didn't care to cover that story.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
450812 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 12:37 pm to
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The illegitimate O'Biden regime ignored numerous legal challenges t

When?
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