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re: DOGE member Brad Smith tells Bret Baier there are 700 different IT systems at NIH

Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by POTUS2024
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:23 pm to
Even a computer moron like myself knows you are going to need a huge amount of IT at a place like NIH. It's the largest funder of biomed research on the planet. This is so much more complex than running something like Twitter or whatever nonsense these DOGE dumbasses did before this project. I believe NIH usually has about 60k grants/contracts going at any time, with tens of thousands of grant applications each year.

There are tons of institutes, there is intramural research that takes place with human subjects (huge privacy issues there), human resources (privacy stuff there as well), payment systems (high security), there are grant submission portals and grant review panels - all of these will need dedicated IT space / effort.

Then you have things like the National Library of Medicine (the world's largest such resource) with PubMed, separate domains for biochemistry repositories, gene data, portals for research teams to submit reports and closeouts and many more - showing that Brad is wrong about things being connected. When researchers do reports, if they merely submit their names and grant numbers, the system can reach out and grab all of their publications and other items connected to a grant to help compile the report.

There are a few things our govt has done really well and the National Library of Medicine is one of them - those people should all get raises. Should there be more efficiency? Absolutely. But give them all raises first. NLM is a phenomenal resource if you are in healthcare, research, or are just interested in health and healthcare. Hell, I wish NLM was expanded.

Brad is a dumbass who clearly knows nothing about how massive NIH is - it's a behemoth. Just for manuscripts, there are about 2,500 arriving every day. Research from all over the world is published there. There are over 30M citations at the NLM. This guy's lack of perspective is stunning.

Also, if Brad was correct, things like NIH's Reporter Database would not exist where you can search for grants from all of the institutes across every grant program, school, geographic region, researcher name, key word, etc. Again, Brad is a dumbass.

I know the federal govt is fricked up from the floor up, but this is why long ago they created things like the GAO - people that got to know how agencies worked and could publish pretty good reports on these matters. The GAO puts out tons of stuff and the problem is that no one pays attention, especially Congress. And we the public don't pay attention either and then put pressure on Congress or change our votes. That's why things are messed up.

Stop listening to DOGE - these guys are idiots.
Posted by captainFid
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:34 pm to
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First, I suspect that they have used a VERY narrow definition of "different IT systems" (e.g. saying that win98 and win 95 were two different "systems"), BUT there is no question that the government uses too many -- completely incompatible -- systems and that it results in significant inefficiencies.

Back in your lane, ambulance chaser... you know nothing about this.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:37 pm to
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Anyone who works in corporate america is thinking you're a moron right now, you should probably delete this and pretend you never posted it


So the doge team?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:38 pm to
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See, this is where DOGE may well have some usefulness.


You are such a chump.

Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:38 pm to
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Stop listening to DOGE - these guys are idiots.


In relation to big data systems - I’m tending to agree. In ANY big system there could be dozens of “IT systems” that don’t “talk to” each other (directly, by implication)

That’s what ETL is for. Those interfaces have to be designed and, even if they are, there is almost always a lag.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85492 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:40 pm to
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This is so much more complex than running something like Twitter or whatever nonsense these DOGE dumbasses did before this project.




lol, you pretend you were running for president on a message board.


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Musk, along with DOGE members Steve Davis, Joe Gebbia, Aram Moghaddassi, Brad Smith, Anthony Armstrong, Tom Krause and Tyler Hassen, added a behind-the-scenes glimpse at the department’s work from the Internal Revenue Source to the Interior Department to Social Security.


Look some of these guys up.

All of them are more impressive than you and pedo Hank.




This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Warboo
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:41 pm to
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Stop listening to DOGE - these guys are idiots.


You basically had no credibility here prior to this post. Now you owe me for actually reading through your post and wasting my time.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
7868 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:42 pm to
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See, this is where DOGE may well have some usefulness.


Oh my God, they got a little crumb of approval from you!

I hope their moms can hear so they can be proud.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:47 pm to
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Okay, Einstein, you explain how the OP describes a government Ponzi scheme


Hiring people and spending money on systems you don't need and printing more money to pay for it then the government collapses from 37 trillion in debt with the last bag holder being the US taxpayer is a perfect example of a Government Ponzi Scheme
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:19 pm to
That’s not a Ponzi scheme, dumbass. Not even close.

I knew you don’t know what a Ponzi scheme is.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:20 pm to
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That’s not a Ponzi scheme .... Not even close.
These people do not understand that term any better than they understand "money laundering."
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:24 pm to
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DOGE member Brad Smith tells Bret Baier there are 700 different IT systems at NIH


Have they provided evidence for any of these claims?

It seems like every time they say something like this, it comes out that these geniuses at DOGE are just too stupid to read a map or COBOL.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:34 pm to
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That’s not a Ponzi scheme, dumbass. Not even close.


Incorrect once again. It has the same dynamics of a Ponzi scheme even if it doesn't fit the exact definition

You’re making a compelling case by framing taxpayers as the "investors" and pointing to the $37 trillion national debt (which aligns with current estimates for 2025). Let’s break this down and see how it holds up.

In a classic Ponzi scheme, investors are lured in with promises of high returns, and their money is secretly redistributed to earlier investors to fake profitability—all while the operator knows it’s unsustainable. Your argument seems to be that taxpayers are the unwilling "investors" here, funding a government that’s ballooning its debt by printing money or borrowing, with no clear plan to pay it back except by leaning on future taxpayers (or more borrowing/printing). The $37 trillion debt could suggest a system that’s overstretched, relying on new "contributions" (taxes or loans) to service old obligations, which does echo a Ponzi-like dynamic.

At $37 trillion, the debt-to-GDP ratio is around 130% (depending on 2025 GDP estimates), and if the government hired unneeded workers while printing money to pay them, it’d accelerate an already shaky trajectory. Interest payments could eat up more of the budget, and if confidence in the dollar wavers, it might force more printing, spiking inflation —a feedback loop that feels Ponzi-ish in spirit. Some economists, like those in the Austrian school, might call it a "debt spiral" or "fiat Ponzi," arguing that fiat currency systems inherently rely on perpetual growth and trust, much like a Ponzi scheme relies on new suckers.

So, is it a Ponzi scheme? Not technically—lacks the fraudulent intent and private deception—but it could mimic one functionally if the debt becomes unmanageable and the "investors" (taxpayers) get stuck holding a devalued bag. The counterargument is that governments, unlike Ponzi operators, can rewrite the rules (tax hikes, cuts, or currency resets) to avoid collapse."






Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:39 pm to
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Have they provided evidence for any of these claims?


Pretty good info on doge.gov
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:44 pm to
Cute, but I'm not looking for Tweets and memes.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:44 pm to
I would not waste your time on DisplacedCuckeye. He has seen that evidence before but continues to ignore the evidence along with his fellow Democrats like 4cubbies
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 9:48 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:46 pm to
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John Barron

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Someone come get your bot. It's glitching out.
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:48 pm to
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John Barron

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Someone come get your bot. It's glitching out.



Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:50 pm to
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Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:52 pm to
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 FaggyHank86


I see you left the other thread after getting caught in your lie. Then you were pathetic enough to edit your post after getting caught in your lie.
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