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re: DOGE Encounters $5 TRILLION in Untraceable Payments

Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20593 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:15 pm to
You could not make the depth of all the corruption up if you tried
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5983 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:16 pm to
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Is this the same story from a month or so ago, someone just decided to tweet it again?

It needs to be shared, don't get me wrong, just trying to understand if they found a completely other $5T on top of the one they found last month


I was wondering the same thing. If I remember correctly, the payments were missing a code that would allow DOGE to trace them to a specific line item. This code wasn't always required. DOGE can't say if these payments were waste, fraud, or legit.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
9179 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:19 pm to
I didn't believe any of that crap and you will not find a post on this forum consistent with your strawman.

Just STFU.

Why is it that anytime anyone questions this administration the absolute least intelligent contributors to the forum swarm like a pack of hyenas?

This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
20827 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:20 pm to
Ok, thanks for your input
Posted by KCSilverTiger
KCMO
Member since Sep 2022
944 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:34 pm to
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Arrests are imminent


Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9124 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:39 pm to
This doesnt even make sense....If payment was issued then it was issued to someone. It's traceable if it was issued.



Doge just kind of says sensationalist crap and then people run with it. Hell the last thing this board thought was true was the parks group spending 1 billion on a survey.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463904 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:39 pm to
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This doesnt even make sense....If payment was issued then it was issued to someone. It's traceable if it was issued.


What DOGE is saying is that the transfers weren't coded properly and it's not working with their algos, hence "untraceable"
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
1982 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:39 pm to
(The SCIF): "Folks, they have been stealing TRILLIONS of our taxpayer dollars for DECADES, and [ just ] now it's all being exposed."

Many of us have assumed this.

So what's the real story here in general accounting depts suddenly flinging their books wide open "after decades" of robbing America blind at will?

We'd all like to blame "purple-haired freak with metal shite in their faces" -- but let's be honest -- they were hardly in govt sys long enough OR smart enough to hatch this grand scheme.

We're left to conclude a number of bad new bullet points and layers to the sudden DOGE audit (just a few):

1. Most every warm body in the echelon bureaucratic machine knew about it, knowing full well that if they shut their mouths they'd all grab a nice piece of the pie. (Estimated over-abuse began around 1993. Do the math.)

2. DOGE report of $5 TRILLION is likely a gross under-estimate of the actual wealth TRANSFER payments. Coincidentally since 1993, US taxes have done nothing to make America better by ANY metric; Meanwhile infrastructure has barely been maintained, our power grid hasn't been upgraded, AND we'd shuttered American manufacturing, sending it TO CHYNA)

3. More than likely the primary reason for these DOGE revelations is because it helps sell the new digital financial system as a "fraud preventative" while ushering in a "new bureaucratic accountability" via AI Governance & Oversite

4. Those trillions are long GONE. There will be no justice. There will be no names. There will be no apologies

5. Serf Nation will be offered a token few thousand dollars as a "Hey, sorry pal" reparations -- which will conveniently be used to seed everyone's new "Digital Wallet" and Universal Basic Income monthly allowance.

Everything that's happening now has been planned for years, folks. Trump and Musk are not actually saviors of anything. They don't really call the shots. Sorry if the truth hurts.

Some changes that are happening appear to be good, but only as the means to an end, deceptively schemed out by the usual un-name-able malevolent Controllers. They've already plotted out their future plans openly, in plain site: Davos' WEF Reset wheel, "Build Back Better", "Internet of Bodies", Smart City grid, and a literal AI Monitoring & Control Grid.

Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9124 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Is Chicken paying you to hijack threads now? "Funny" how often you've been the first to post a response to any good news about Trump, DOGE, foreign investment, etc.

Careful, "genius." You do it too often and soon there will be more than two of us who have your stupid little posting m.o. figured out.



Wild how people disagree with Trump on anything, even in a respectful manner, and all they are met with is vitriol.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74518 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:50 pm to
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4cubbies

Your deep, deep concern & accompanying snark are noted.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18419 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:50 pm to

quote:

Is this the same story from a month or so ago, someone just decided to tweet it again?

It needs to be shared, don't get me wrong, just trying to understand if they found a completely other $5T on top of the one they found last month


I was wondering the same thing. If I remember correctly, the payments were missing a code that would allow DOGE to trace them to a specific line item. This code wasn't always required. DOGE can't say if these payments were waste, fraud, or legit.


I believe you guys are correct. Its the writing of your checks while never putting in the register what its for. So it is all the checks written, not all fraud.

What a mess of a way to run the largest business in the world. Musk is right, if trully audited as a company they would be delisted from any stock exchange.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463904 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

I believe you guys are correct. Its the writing of your checks while never putting in the register what its for. So it is all the checks written, not all fraud.


Correct.

quote:

What a mess of a way to run the largest business in the world.

Also, correct.

No silly conspiracies needed. Or fraud. Just incompetence and laziness.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39438 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

I was wondering the same thing. If I remember correctly, the payments were missing a code that would allow DOGE to trace them to a specific line item. This code wasn't always required. DOGE can't say if these payments were waste, fraud, or legit.


Sort of. The code not only stopped DOGE from being able to trace them, it pretty much stops anyone from being able to do so to identify what the payment is actually for. The code, iirc, directly links said payment to a budgetary line item. Without it, there is no way to verify the payment to what it is actually for.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67180 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:58 pm to
He twists facts until he’s actually lying.
Posted by NussBusDriver
BR
Member since Sep 2024
151 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:00 pm to
It's just funny that that the anti Trump and Musk crowd want to doubt everything Musk is putting out there but just went along with billions of our dollars being wasted without a whimper.

Must finds billions in waste "I DONT BELIEVE HIM"

Fed gov wasting billions and enriching themselves "Silence"
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31630 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:05 pm to
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Truth: our government was sloppy in how they labeled money moving through the system
Sloppy? How about bloated, redundant, ineffective, inept and totally without supervision or accountability.

This government has been operating and administering funds with computer systems from the freaking 90's! No wonder there are black holes and hundreds of thousands of social security recipients over the age of 115 collecting benefits.



Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61331 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:09 pm to
Who gets mad when people save taxpayers money, but also says nothing when we cannot account for where 5 Trillion dollars of said tax payers money actually went?

For perspective, that equivalent to cutting a 30k check to every US tax payer.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 2:18 pm
Posted by NussBusDriver
BR
Member since Sep 2024
151 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:12 pm to
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Truth: our government was sloppy in how they labeled money moving through the system


Illegal immigrants receiving benefits from our government because they were given SS#'s isn't sloppy movement of money. Spending FEMA funds to house illegals isn't sloppy movement of money.

IF a publicly traded company did the things our fed gov has done then those CEOs and board members would be throw in jail. But the fed gov has nobody holding them accountable till now. How can the SEC hold companies accountable when they themselves aren't accountable.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24860 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:19 pm to
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This right here is why the democrats are so up in arms.

The crooks have been exposed


Cutting the money trough that goes to "progressive" NGO's is making them squeal.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35007 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:34 pm to
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DOGE has uncovered $5 TRILLION dollars in UNTRACEABLE payments. There's no records of where it went. Just a gigantic whole [sic] in the budget that they were covering up. A $5 TRILLION dollar blank check.

This is how politicians and the bureaucratic state stay rich. This is how the corporatocracy has always maintained power above capitalism. This is how the Etatist Kleptocracy has so greatly expanded and deepened the Establishment Swamp.

And make no mistake, it's BOTH "sides" and everyone in the "middle" that are doing it. There might be a small handful of Congress members that aren't wholly corrupt.
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