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re: Does Trump deserve any blame for the 2020 election outcome?
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:31 pm to deathvalleytiger10
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:31 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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It is delusional to think a "better" candidate will solve the fraud issue.
So the solution is to go with the lesser candidate?
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Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:32 pm to moneyg
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That shouldn't be a candidate role.
Its the candidates role
Trump didn't give a frick and still doesn't based on his disastrous comments with Brett Baier.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:33 pm to Fun Bunch
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The literal definition of loser talk.
Hey, hope I am wrong. Let's revisit this after the election and see. Of course DeSantis has to get his campaign in gear first. Hope he does.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:34 pm to Fun Bunch
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Trump's entire slate of campaign promises are predicated on you not knowing that he already was president.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:34 pm to PorkSammich
you mean besides losing the popular vote by over 7 million votes??
Besides arguing with news reports for hours per day in televised press conferences for months during COVID?
Besides locking us down?
Besides paying out hundreds of billions of dollars to people to not work?
Besides pissing off important people in key states un-necessarily like the McCains in Arizona and Ryan in Wisconsin and Kemp in Georgia???
Besides all of those things probably not.
Besides arguing with news reports for hours per day in televised press conferences for months during COVID?
Besides locking us down?
Besides paying out hundreds of billions of dollars to people to not work?
Besides pissing off important people in key states un-necessarily like the McCains in Arizona and Ryan in Wisconsin and Kemp in Georgia???
Besides all of those things probably not.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:35 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:38 pm to PorkSammich
Of course he does.
if he hadn't shut down the country and ceded authority to Fauci for a fricking cold, the states that engaged in their mail-in ballot shenanigans wouldn't have had the ability to do what they did.
also, if he had had his eye on the ball, he would have jumped on the states that were doing it sooner.
if he hadn't shut down the country and ceded authority to Fauci for a fricking cold, the states that engaged in their mail-in ballot shenanigans wouldn't have had the ability to do what they did.
also, if he had had his eye on the ball, he would have jumped on the states that were doing it sooner.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:41 pm to BugAC
quote:
So the solution is to go with the lesser candidate?
Man we have some reading comprehension sufferers around here.
No, that is not what I posted. If fraud continues, it doesn't matter who the candidate is. We have to stop the fraud. The quotations around "better" were in reference to the post I was replying to.
Why is it hard for people to understand that we have to stop the fraud to win? Some magic candidate will not overcome it unless we get tight rules that stops the fraud. And that has to be done at the local/state level.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:42 pm to PorkSammich
Without the Russia shite he wins easily.
Without DOJ pushing Tussia stuff he wins easily
Without crooked arse FBI pushing Russia stuff he wins easily.
Without Facebook colluding with Dems he likely wins.
Without Facebook killing pro Trump and promoting anti trump he likely wins.
Without The NY Times and social media colluding with Dems and DOJ he wins easily.
Even with all that shite… without the Covid stuff he wins easily.
Without DOJ pushing Tussia stuff he wins easily
Without crooked arse FBI pushing Russia stuff he wins easily.
Without Facebook colluding with Dems he likely wins.
Without Facebook killing pro Trump and promoting anti trump he likely wins.
Without The NY Times and social media colluding with Dems and DOJ he wins easily.
Even with all that shite… without the Covid stuff he wins easily.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:43 pm to PorkSammich
He's responsible to the extent that he didn't guard against obvious tactics to stack the deck against him. He didn't play for keeps and he got got.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:44 pm to Wally Sparks
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Where did they run everything?
During Trump's first term, repubs had both chambers and presidency.
And wasted most of their time infighting and trying to placate democrats.
Meanwhile Dems were inventing new ways to steal elections.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:56 pm to troyt37
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the marxists were also cooking the voting machines?
Dominion? no one has a smidgeon of proof of that story.
Sidney Powell confessed in court she made it all up.
when you lie choose something novel, thats not already the feature of Fox $700M loss lawsuit.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:56 pm to Colonel Flagg
Are you saying that Trump is not willing to take a principled stand? Even when he knows he is right? Like when he signed that big spending bill that he said he wouldn't sign. Then said he would never sign another one like that?
Posted on 8/9/23 at 2:57 pm to CelticDog
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when you lie
You’re the expert.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 3:05 pm to Fun Bunch
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Its the candidates role
You think the hundreds of non profits doing dirty work for the Dems are coordinated by the individual candidates?
You are insane.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 8/9/23 at 3:07 pm to Tridentds
quote:
without the Covid stuff he wins easily.
covid was his test as leader and he failed.
his interviews with washington post revealed he lied about cv19 danger.
he says to avoid panic.
i say to avoid panic selling on wall street.
anyhow he was the leader and he was awful.
not up to it.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 3:14 pm to Fun Bunch
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Trump was right when he said Cruz cheated in Iowa in 2016?
I was referring to national election comments, not what Trump may or may not have said while shite-talking Ted Cruz.
I can't speak to reply to your comment though. There's been so much "Orange Man Bad" crap posted on this board in the 8 years since then, that I'd have to do research before offering a rebuttal on something that happened nearly a decade ago. And honestly, I'm not going to do that research. I'm focusing my energy on just trying my best to find a way to reestablish some semblance of cohesion among the base of conservative voters that have been systematically poisoned against each other by the very media and entities that they claim to hate.
The thread was about 2020. I admittedly digressed but I brought it back on topic at the end. I'd rather not go back to 2016 yet again.
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