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Does the Constitution still have value in 2025 as originally intended?

Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:52 am
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10317 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 9:52 am
Point being, it was a document made for a specific type of people (white Christian and moral men to be precise). The piece of paper is more or less just a formality, the more important part is that it was written on the hearts of those who governed and consented to the government of the country at that time.

It was not meant for the electorate and demographics and the level of manipulation that is goes through today with courts and lawyers and politicians. Where you can have a judge say it’s not the Presidents right to fire someone on his staff or deport illegal gangbangers.

From my perspective, these days the Constitution doesn’t serve much use restraining the enemies of our civilization, as they will find crafty ways to abuse and manipulate it to whatever means they wish. All I see it doing anymore is restraining those who wish to protect the civilization.
Posted by Deep Fried Gravy
Member since Oct 2023
178 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:36 am to
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it was a document made for a specific type of people


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All I see it doing anymore is restraining those who wish to protect the civilization.


These are two of the more important reasons why the U.S. Constitution has as much value today as it did 238 years ago.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20190 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:40 am to
Nothing wrong with the constitution. If it is not being utilized or applied in a way that supports modern times then that’s our fault.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
4996 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:45 am to
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Nothing wrong with the constitution. If it is not being utilized or applied in a way that supports modern times then that’s our fault


Nothing wrong with the constitution, what is wrong is committing to abide by it at all costs when leftists do not. We are playing basketball with 1 arm tied behind our back

The constitution was created when the intention was that only land owning men would be voters. The founders would have structured it to be more public mob proof (one of Madison’s big fears) if they had known women, migrants from shithole cultures, and nihilistic atheists would be a defining portion of the voter base
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7888 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 10:53 am to
Quite simply the founding fathers relied upon congress to be the guiding compass and the major power - both the house and senate.

What they did not anticipate was the absolute greed of their fellow man who only exists for their self interest and wealth above all else including the permanent politician without any other source of income

Fix that problem and the rest fall in line
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
19764 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:27 am to
The original intent wasn't to have elected members of congress sit in their seat for decades. They were supposed to do a term or two of service and then go back to their regular lives.

These fricks have made congress their one and only job for their adult lives and after their first term, they usually ignore their constituents and work for themselves until it's time to campaign.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
9658 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:29 am to
Our Constitution is just fine. The problem is that the federal government hasn't felt it should be limited by it since sometime around 1865 when the federal government became the national or central government.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4918 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:33 am to
Other than the Bible, I personally believe this document was the greatest written achievement in history.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
4996 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:34 am to
The steps towards “the imperial presidency” began with Abe Lincoln and his prize cases suit
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66179 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:35 am to
It’s meant to govern a just citizenry
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4776 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:36 am to
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Does the Constitution still have value in 2025 as originally intended?
Sadly no. Not because of the document itself, but because of what we've done to it.

The constitution still has enormous value, but we have all but ignored it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465642 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:43 am to
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It was not meant for the electorate and demographics and the level of manipulation that is goes through today with courts and lawyers and politicians. Where you can have a judge say it’s not the Presidents right to fire someone on his staff or deport illegal gangbangers.

Oh lord. Here we go.

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these days the Constitution doesn’t serve much use restraining the enemies of our civilization, as they will find crafty ways to abuse and manipulate it to whatever means they wish. All I see it doing anymore is restraining those who wish to protect the civilization.

So what's your solution, exactly?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465642 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 11:44 am to
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The founders would have structured it to be more public mob proof (one of Madison’s big fears) if they had known women, migrants from shithole cultures, and nihilistic atheists would be a defining portion of the voter base

You need to read the Federalist Papers, specifically 43 and 85
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
4996 posts
Posted on 9/17/25 at 12:06 pm to
Odd pick, considering Madison lays it out in fed 10 (mob rule)

The amendment process (what I presume you are getting at) is flawed beyond repair. Fed 85 is not a great defense of the constitution in todays world
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