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re: Does Ted Cruz believe any criticism of Israel is antisemitism?

Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by dickkellog
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:04 pm to
no ted cruz believes using israel we can engineer the second coming of christ and force jesus to come back to earth whether he wants to or not.

mike huckabee believes that as well
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:05 pm to
Yes. Ted deep throats that Israel dick.
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:10 pm to
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I think he’s childish and I think he’s incredibly nasty.


Funny. That was what people said about Trump the past decade. Assholes get things done. Fuentes is just a reflection of the Overton window shifting further right and I personally respect those that don’t try and be a “nice guy” and just call it how it is.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Support for these foreign countries like Ukraine, Israel, Egypt, Jordan, etc. is one big tax payer grift. When will the tax payer finally understand this? Probably never.


This x1000. How much of the military “aid” intended for the Ukraine or the humanitarian “aid” intended for Gaza has ended up in the hands of our supposed worst enemies?

Israel Worries U.S. Weapons for Ukraine Are Ending Up in Iran’s Hands…

Opposing ALL forms of foreign “aid” would be the best strategy in increasing the security of Israel and indeed the security of the entire Middle Eastern region. This Obama era headline perfectly encapsulates the insanity of repeatedly employing these same failed interventionist foreign policy objectives and expecting different results:



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Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:13 pm to
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I’m no pro-Israel zealot, but are we supposed to be against them now because of something that happened over 50 years ago?

It may or may not have been a mistake, but it’s hard to make the case that this was part of any pattern.


That’s a fair response to the question, instead Ted essentially called him a Nazi.

I think a better question would be why did we stand behind a regime change in Syria that resulted in the massacre of Christian in the country. How does propping up the leader of ISIS benefit America? Clearly it doesn’t. But Ted still defended it.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:15 pm to
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I don’t like Fuentes. I think he’s childish and I think he’s incredibly nasty. But I won’t be surprised if his popularity continues to grow because Ted Cruz thinks everyone is retarded and can be threatened into becoming zionists.


I don't think his popularity growing has anything to do with a backlash to people like Ted Cruz throwing around antisemitism claims. There aren't many people paying attention to either Fuentes or Cruz.

The trend on the right is towards an oppressor/oppressed ideology. The leaders of that ideology are irrelevant, the ideology will grow as people abandon personal responsibility.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Funny. That was what people said about Trump the past decade. Assholes get things done. Fuentes is just a reflection of the Overton window shifting further right and I personally respect those that don’t try and be a “nice guy” and just call it how it is.


No. There is a difference between an a-hole who gets thing done and someone who is just outright nasty. Plus when faced with a little pushback from Tucker he showed he’s just an angry child who struggles to actually defend his beliefs.

Fuentes is funny and I get why young guys like him. But he’s not an actual leader of a movement.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:23 pm to
Also Fuentes is just the other side of Ben Shapiro, Ted Cruz and Mark Levin. Telling Matt Walsh he can’t be taken seriously until he leaves the daily wire.

bullshite. Ben Shapiro doesn’t get to tell Tucker who he can talk to. Nick Fuentes doesn’t get to tell Matt Walsh where he works.

This isn’t that hard. Nobody gets to police conversation.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:23 pm to
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The uss liberty discussion is often framed as some cover-up or conspiracy, when in fact there were investigations by multiple American agencies and the Israelis accepted liability. The people that keep bringing it up (eg Candace Owens) don't do it in good faith.


You're right! The Israeli's have never ever ever ever ever done false flags in their history to stir up more shite in the ME.

You are either paid, a shill, or 70 years old if you believe that grift that came out of your mouth.

Tell the class why secret nuclear weapons are good for the world now...
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:25 pm to
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There aren't many people paying attention to either Fuentes or Cruz.


His popularity and views have grown by the millions since the Tucker interview.

The Tucker interview was viewed by 10+M across all platforms.

You obviously don't have a clue what is going on in the real world
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:33 pm to
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The trend on the right is towards an oppressor/oppressed ideology.



And that is exactly what informs much of the Right’s support for Israel. We are fed a constant sob story about Israel being annihilated by it’s Muslim enemies: “Poor little Israel! It is surrounded by hostile neighbors!”

It’s utter baloney: Israel is a nuclear armed power with a deadly ruthless military. Israel also offers it’s citizens a cradle-to-grave welfare system and Israeli citizens further enjoy a standard of living that rivals all but the largest of European countries.

Why should taxpayers in the United States be expected to subsidize Israel’s existence into perpetuity? Whatever Cold War geopolitical calculations factored into Israel being a client state of the United States have long since disappeared.
This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 12:35 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:38 pm to
Really a fantastic post by the OP.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:39 pm to
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His popularity and views have grown by the millions since the Tucker interview.


6% of people know what a groyper is and only 1% knew it was followers of Fuentes.

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You obviously don't have a clue what is going on in the real world



Fuentes isn't popular in the real world, he's popular among people who spend too much time online. He's popular among people who want to blame another group for their problems.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:48 pm to
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And that is exactly what informs much of the Right’s support for Israel.


No it's not. Oppressor/oppressed ideology is what informs the black community's worldview. It's where people land after abandoning personal responsibility.

You've just made up some weird connection that makes no sense.

Further, Israel is mostly surrounded by enemies, denying that is denying reality.

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with a deadly ruthless military


Because of our support.

We support them because they share common values in a region that doesn't share our values and we support them so that when they are attacked by those enemies, we don't have to put boots on the ground.

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Why should taxpayers in the United States be expected to subsidize Israel’s existence into perpetuity?


Because you keep electing people who want to support Israel but your denial of personal responsibility leads you to believe that those people are actually good and then "compromised" by Israel. Maybe just do a better job electing good representation.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:54 pm to
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6% of people know what a groyper is and only 1% knew it was followers of Fuentes.


Keep believing this while you get some more outside time.

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Fuentes isn't popular in the real world, he's popular among people who spend too much time online.


Ask any male that is 16-21 years old. Black or white. They ALL know him.

You are in a fantasy land.

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He's popular among people who want to blame another group for their problems.


Nope. They look at it as Israel gets bailed out by the United Stares government and are "promised" a country of their own.

While they get no substantial financial breaks, college debt, unaffordable housing, and a weak job market with no plans to eliminate fully mass immigration into their own. And their very own government would rather give another country a bailout.

Again, what a weak argument without looking at the nuance.

But bet your bottom dollar, pal.

They ALL know him.

Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:56 pm to
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I don’t like Fuentes. I think he’s childish and I think he’s incredibly nasty. But I won’t be surprised if his popularity continues to grow because Ted Cruz thinks everyone is retarded and can be threatened into becoming zionists.

This is kinda where I'm at as well. This movement needs a face, and I think it will end up being Fuentes.

...and I don't think he's the right face. In principle and logic, he might be right about some things. But his style and persona are counterintuitive to the message. He come across far too often as childish, vulgar, immature and churlish.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:58 pm to
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...and I don't think he's the right face. In principle and logic, he might be right about some things. But his style and persona are counterintuitive to the message. He come across far too often as childish, vulgar, immature and churlish.


Yall are in for a very big surprise I fear
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 1:07 pm to
I don't trust anyone who has never eaten a BBQ pork sandwich*.

*unless they are too young to chew
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
5171 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Yall are in for a very big surprise I fear



No surprises here, the woke right is coming. Whether it's Burrito Mussolini or some other person, you guys will be taking over.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 1:13 pm to
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No surprises here, the woke right is coming. Whether it's Burrito Mussolini or some other person, you guys will be taking over.


Far right. Get it right next time.
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