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Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:06 pm to bamarep
I don't like Pelosi but she is a master politician. Trump is unlikely to win this battle.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:07 pm to cahoots
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I don't like Pelosi but she is a master politician. Trump is unlikely to win this battle.
Trump is such a terrible politician he became POTUS!
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:09 pm to bamarep
quote:When she's got at least 90% of the American media willing to lie, distort, obfuscate, and otherwise carry water for her, yeah, I kind of like her odds.
Does Pelosi actually think she can win a standoff with the President of the United States?
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:10 pm to TBoy
quote:Trump is trying to ngotiate
Both sides have to give something to get it done. If Trump continues with no negotiation, so will they.
ZERO money for the wall is a non started
Dems can get damned near anything they want, but refuse to even negotiate, much less compromise
$2.5 billion for a wall and accept the DACA seems like a no brainer
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:11 pm to bamarep
She’s just there to upset his power and make him ineffective...she could give him $3B for his wall and still ‘win’ this last month.
Postpone, delay, investigate...they just want to handcuff him until the next election season. This is working for them.
Postpone, delay, investigate...they just want to handcuff him until the next election season. This is working for them.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:13 pm to L.A.
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When she's got at least 90% of the American media willing to lie, distort, obfuscate, and otherwise carry water for her, yeah, I kind of like her odds.
So did Hillary. How'd that work out?
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:18 pm to TBoy
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Both sides have to give something to get it done. If Trump continues with no negotiation, so will they.
Apparently you can't read or don't listen.....he is trying to negotiate.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:19 pm to bamarep
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Does Pelosi actually think she can win a standoff with the President of the United States?
None of these people are used to a GOP President they can’t bend over. They haven’t seen one since Reagan. And even then, they managed to hoodwink him on occasion.
These people’s idea of compromise has always been “give us what we want or else”. They’re dealing with an actual businessman now. That doesn’t fly anymore, and it’s fricking with their way of thinking.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:25 pm to bamarep
The more this moron tries to out trump Trump, the more I become confident that Trump will get his wall.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:27 pm to Godfather1
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These people’s idea of compromise has always been “give us what we want or else”. They’re dealing with an actual businessman now. That doesn’t fly anymore, and it’s fricking with their way of thinking.
AMEN!
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:27 pm to bamarep
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By then, even Dems will have turned on her.
no way. THey are unified on this. The Rs are th eones that are flaking out.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:40 pm to TBoy
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Both sides have to give something to get it done. If Trump continues with no negotiation, so will they.
Are you paying attention, at all?
If this is the other side then we are doomed until they are eradicated
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:47 pm to bamarep
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This is going to be one of the more amazing things of my lifetime to watch transpire.
WE are all going to school and the day will come when we will say, What would Trump have done
Posted on 1/17/19 at 2:50 pm to TBoy
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Both sides have to give something to get it done. If Trump continues with no negotiation, so will they.
bullshite.
Democrat's definition of compromise has always been Republicans giving them everything and they get shite on in return.
Sadly, most Republicans have happily played along because they were part of the play and had memorized the script.
Trump is not playing that shite.
frick them.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 4:32 pm to dcbl
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$2.5 billion for a wall and accept the DACA seems like a no brainer
That is exactly what I suggested, both sides giving a little and getting it done. We agree completely.
By the way, the spending resolution passed before the last Congress ended, prior to the shutdown, included about 1.8 billion for border security. It was exactly the kind of compromise you suggest. It passed the House and the Senate with Trump's blessing. Then Trump changed his mind, made a new demand, and said if he didn't get everything he demanded, he would be happy to shut the government down. Which is exactly what happened.
I know it is history, but it isn't ancient history. We should all remember this.
Posted on 1/17/19 at 5:25 pm to TBoy
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By the way, the spending resolution passed before the last Congress ended, prior to the shutdown, included about 1.8 billion for border security. It was exactly the kind of compromise you suggest. It passed the House and the Senate with Trump's blessing. Then Trump changed his mind, made a new demand, and said if he didn't get everything he demanded, he would be happy to shut the government down. Which is exactly what happened.
I've been searching for this deal that Trump agreed to and then backed out of for 2 days. All I can find are where the Senate offers $1.6 billion for "security, but no wall" and a $5 billion offer for a wall from the House that was struck down by dems in the Senate. Several articles mention Schumer repeatedly saying the Senate dems will not support a wall whatsoever.
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What’s more, the $1.6 billion the Senate earmarked could not be used to construct any part of a border wall, Schumer said last week, adding that the money could be spent only on fencing where necessary and for technology deployed at the border.
LINK
Can you please post a link to this deal for wall funding that passed both the House and the Senate and then was rejected by Trump? Thanks
Posted on 1/17/19 at 5:35 pm to brian_wilson
quote:yep. she'll cave just as soon as her team of idiots come up with a narrative her useful idiots will soak up
Pelosi will eventually cave but probably not until March 1 or so.
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