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Does LSU require all speakers to provide certificates of insurance coverage
Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:46 pm
LSU cancelled a speech by Milo Yiannopoulos due to his failure to provide insurance coverage for the event. Is this a standard requirement that LSU applies to all speakers at events on campus? Or is it just selectively directed at speakers who present a conservative viewpoint?
If only applied to conservatives this would be content discrimination. Even worse is the fact that the insurance would be to protect against injuries or damages which would in all probability be caused by those who disagree with the conservative view point and by extension suppression of free speech. Has the policy been legally challenged if it is not universally applied?
If only applied to conservatives this would be content discrimination. Even worse is the fact that the insurance would be to protect against injuries or damages which would in all probability be caused by those who disagree with the conservative view point and by extension suppression of free speech. Has the policy been legally challenged if it is not universally applied?
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Posted on 4/11/18 at 12:51 pm to tigersbb
surely the poliboard knows!
Posted on 4/11/18 at 1:24 pm to 90proofprofessional
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surely the poliboard knows!
That is why I posted. I am sure this was explored by some who post here.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 1:53 pm to tigersbb
There was a $5 security fee last time he came. I didn't notice any extra police. There were one or two lib protesters holding signs but they didn't look like the violent type. I've seen a few speakers there and Milo is the only one I've paid for.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:10 pm to tigersbb
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If only applied to conservatives this would be content discrimination.
What if it's only applied to child molesters?
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:12 pm to slackster
Was he being paid by the university as some sort of supplier, contractor, or something?
If yes ... then, requesting a COI is pretty normal.
If yes ... then, requesting a COI is pretty normal.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:16 pm to slackster
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What if it's only applied to child molesters?
Wasn't he the molested in his case?
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:22 pm to BigJim
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Wasn't he the molested in his case?
Yes, and he supports child molestation.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:25 pm to tigersbb
I think LSU requires ANY contractor that steps on campus to have insurance.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 2:28 pm to navy
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Was he being paid by the university as some sort of supplier, contractor, or something?
If yes ... then, requesting a COI is pretty normal.
That would usually apply to someone performing maintenance such as a painting contractor etc.
If Milo was somehow classified as a contractor and that status is the basis for requiring him to provide insurance there is no problem as long as every other speaker similarly situated has the same requirement.
If the university is required to have extra costs for extended security for Milo thereby passing the costs on to him would they apply the same obligation to say gun control activist David Hogg? His presence would certainly spark concerns over potential gun violence by those opposed to his messsage, thereby forcing LSU to ramp up security.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:48 pm to tigersbb
I am part of a statewide high school association. WE used the LSU campus for an event on March 17. We had to submit proof of insurance 30 days in advance. That's pretty standard at any university.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:49 pm to slackster
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Yes, and he supports child molestation.
Pretty sure thats entirely false and you should feel really childish for making it up just because you dont like the guy.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 3:50 pm to tigersbb
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If only applied to conservatives this would be content discrimination.
Jesus you people will really go the extra mile to find out if you should be outraged.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 4:15 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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Jesus you people will really go the extra mile to find out if you should be outraged.
The larger problem is that these disparate treatments almost always seem to be at the expense of the conservative point of view, whether it be on Facebook, a biased exercise in schools, the IRS fiasco with approving tax exemption for conservative advocacy groups, the discrimination against conservative groups on college campuses in general, the treatment of conservative speakers on those campuses, public schools allowing certain forms of expression and contents on student clothing while censoring conservative and Christian content, and the list goes on and on. These organizations never have to apologize to the liberals for their discriminatory actions.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 4:17 pm to tigersbb
What does this insurance cover?
Posted on 4/11/18 at 4:20 pm to GeorgeWest
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I am part of a statewide high school association. WE used the LSU campus for an event on March 17. We had to submit proof of insurance 30 days in advance. That's pretty standard at any university.
Was this for an athletic event? That would be understandable with the risk injury, assuming any and all athletic events were given the same terms and obligations.
There is no problem if the university treats all speakers the same regardless of their political, religious or any other point of view.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 4:38 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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What does this insurance cover?
Bodily injury to anyone in attendance or property damage. Generally the policy covers the contractual liability assumed by the event sponsor. For instance if those of conflicting views start a fracas with the supporters of the speaker. While certainly degrees of liability might be assigned to various parties a court could find LSU provided inadequate security.
It would likely exclude for instance liability for an injury caused by a seat collapsing in the auditorium due to a defect as the speaker would have no control over this. However someone could claim damage to personal property as the result of a fracas and fault could be assessed to the school or the sponsoring group.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 10:00 pm to navy
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Was he being paid by the university as some sort of supplier, contractor, or something?
If yes ... then, requesting a COI is pretty normal.
I haven’t specifically done university events but generally speaking most noteworthy event space rental includes COI clauses as does any vendor/contractor agreement.
It would be clearly spelled out in his contracting, whatever the nature of the agreement, and his own fault if he opted to violate the term.
Posted on 4/11/18 at 10:20 pm to tigersbb
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LSU cancelled a speech by Milo Yiannopoulos due to his failure to provide insurance coverage for the event.
Well shite, I'm missing out on an untapped market..
Posted on 4/11/18 at 10:52 pm to NoSaint
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I haven’t specifically done university events but generally speaking most noteworthy event space rental includes COI clauses as does any vendor/contractor agreement.
It would be clearly spelled out in his contracting, whatever the nature of the agreement, and his own fault if he opted to violate the term.
I would agree if this is the standard practice for any and all events and any similarly situated are required to adhere to the same rules. However, given the climate on college campuses today its hard to trust an administration requires both liberals and conservatives to play by the same rules.
As often as Milo has given his presentations it would be standard operating procedure for him and his management to know the terms of their contract and make arrangements for whatever is required. Something just does not add up here.
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