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re: Does anyone here on this board have the balls to say they oppose weed legalization?

Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:29 pm to
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It's almost like drugs for treating aids were created and were effective around that time, or something Not sure what you're digging at here


You stated that Aids was down in Portugal due to drugs being decriminalized. There is NO connection to that. It's down world wide and it started WAY before the decriminalization by Portugal.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:29 pm to
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Major busts of CARTELS are still happening.


Because it's not legalized in Portugal, it's decriminalized for personal use.
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:31 pm to
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And going by economics, someone is not going to buy in the black market when there’s a legal alternative that’s comparably priced.


Then explain the cartels working inside Portugal!

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:32 pm to
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You stated that Aids was down in Portugal due to drugs being decriminalized.


Uh, no. Aids is down for IV drug uses to to needle exchanges that can be directly traced to policy
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:32 pm to
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If taxs and regulation are too heavy, there will still be a black market though not as large


Ple3ase couple that with the illegal growers in the US. Please couple that with other things they are moving across our borders.

Posted by NIH
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:32 pm to
Republican voters are embarrassing. The nancies in this thread who want government to step in and save everyone from the reefer should be ashamed.
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:35 pm to
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Portugal has less of a drug problem than the USA


You are side stepping. Either there is a black market or there is not. Either decriminalization ended the black market there or not.

I linked to arrests and seizures made this year. It's 16 years. So you are saying the US has a bigger drug problem. Why are you changing arguments?

Now get back to being honest.

Posted by mouton
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:37 pm to
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The nancies in this thread who want government to step in and save everyone from the reefer should be ashamed.


You should be ashamed that you do not care about the hundreds of people who die from marijuana overdoses each and every year.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:37 pm to
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Because it's not legalized in Portugal, it's decriminalized for personal use.



Then you have no proof that it works. Then you need to get with the others in this thread who are actively spouting it as "see it works".


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:38 pm to

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You are side stepping. Either there is a black market or there is not. Either decriminalization ended the black market there or not.


Yure s frickin dishonest. No one said decriminalization ends black markets.

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linked to arrests and seizures made this year. It's 16 years. So you are saying the US a bigger drug problem. Why are you changing arguments?

Now



Yes. We have a higher rate of both use and abuse than Portugal
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:39 pm to
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Republican voters are embarrassing.


Most favor weed being legal
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:40 pm to
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And going by economics, someone is not going to buy in the black market when there’s a legal alternative that’s comparably priced.


Then explain the cartels working inside Portugal!



In addition to your lack of economic knowledge, you don't know the difference between decriminalization and legalization
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:48 pm to
Then explain why it was down way before and in other parts of the world without that.

You cant use that as an argument when it happened every whers without that policy and not accept those policies as valid also.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 4:54 pm to
I do. There are 2 arguments being made. 1 holds Portugal as a shining example. You started showing charts from there once Portugal was mentioned.

Either we are using them as an example or we are not. Which is it?

Now if you want to go legalization, fine. We can move to that strictly, but you have yet to show an example where it works to the extent you have put out.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 5:03 pm to
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Alcohol kills waaaay more people.


And consumed by waaaay more too.
And people won't just do one or the other they will mix....."you want a beer,wine, spirit, or brownie?"

But I ask you, all of sudden weed is legalized and by 2028 is commonly used and kills as many as alcohol...do you change your mind? If not then why even use it as an argument if it's inconsequential to your support of it?
Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 5:06 pm to
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Jjdoc


Nobody has ever offered you weed, have they?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 5:06 pm to
No they wont. They will move to the next best thing.
Posted by Jjdoc
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 5:07 pm to
Many many times and it nothing to do witb the topic.
Posted by mouton
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 5:08 pm to
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But I ask you, all of sudden weed is legalized and by 2028 is commonly used and kills as many as alcohol.


You actually think this is possible?
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/5/18 at 5:10 pm to
Welcome to the topic. Shall we?
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