re: Does anyone here on this board have the balls to say they oppose weed legalization?

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or they're going to resell the legal weed, which they're probably already doing.

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You're allowed to buy one ounce at the most in Oregon.

You really think they will waste their time doing that?



The smart thing to do would be to grow your own inside this country and sell it. Which they are already doing.

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No. I want fewer people in prison (freedom for nonviolent pot offenders), a decreased burden on the penal system

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this is a societal problem. legalizing weed won't make people stop disobeying the law. iow, it's the person, not the weed.

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do you know what an understatement is? like 1 in 10 is an acceptable number. did you see the stats for adolescent use? if it's widely legalized, the number of addicted people could climb into the hundreds of thousands. but hey, it's only 1 in 10.

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You let me know what's an acceptable number, then. If there isn't, then are you OK with alcohol, fast food, sodas, cigarettes?

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first, you label a long list under one moniker to lessen the quantity of adverse effects. then, you downplay the risk of adverse effects. then, you throw caution to the wind instead of being prudent. do you think any of this is wise?

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I downplay the risk of adverse effects because I am able to compare this to something like alcohol. After that comparison, yes, I think it's extremely wise.

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so you highlight the uncertainty of the risk and then use that for a claim that no one has died. the obvious question is, how do you know?

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Because I've never seen anything, to my knowledge, that someone has died due to smoking marijuana. Have you?

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there is LOTS of acknowledgement that studying the effects of recreational marijuana use is not easy for multiple reasons. still, that shouldn't deter us from erring on the side of caution.

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Well shite then, let's just outlaw roller coasters and jet skis. Might as well throw in vehicles as well. We actually have statistics that show us the deaths they cause. You know, just err on the side of caution.

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but i'm probably discussing this with a pothead so i'm not sure what the point is. marijuana can cause irrationality so it's like talking to a brick wall.

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No, I quit smoking pot 20 years ago because I wanted to. My mom, however, smokes to relieve her pain from scoliosis. Maybe I should tell her to just accept the advice of her doctor and hope she doesn't get hooked on the opiates he's trying to push on her because of the serious adverse affects of short term memory loss from that evil reefer.

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That's a legit question. Freedom and all!

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You're comparing legalizing marijuana, a substance which is not physically addictive, with some of the most addictive drugs on the planet. That's the definition of a straw man fallacy.

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I thought we were legalizing drugs to end the cartels and all.

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Literally no one has said that. Catch up with the conversation before you try to be a smartass, bro.

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why do potheads insist on using specious language to understate the issue?

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I don't smoke pot or use drugs, even alcohol.

Freedom is a concept you should be connected to, whether you support individual ideas or not.




Higher consciousness allows you to see the bigger picture and get past Petty personal preferences.

States rights! Unless my pastor don't like it

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ok, there's no use discussing the issue with irrational people.

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You're absolutely right. Case in point below...

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you're right. a known psychoactive DRUG being used recreationally in urban areas, possibly while operating machinery won't add a single dollar of burden to the healthcare system. because potheads are known to be responsible people.

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Sort of like... alcohol? A known psychoactive substance used recreationally in "urban areas" ( ) often while operating all types of machinery... and yet it's legal. Society survives and thrives.

Also, to use your own logic, wouldn't it be the fault of the individual showing up to work/driving high... NOT the weed?

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i bet i can pick out in this thread who has worked in law enforcement and who hasn't

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I bet I can too. I actually have a firm grasp on the purpose and structure of the three branches of government... that's how you can tell I haven't.

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why do potheads insist on using specious language to understate the issue? do any of you know what err on the side of caution means? there is LOTS of risk and criminality associated with recreational marijuana. BUT MUH POT!

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Maybe people should realize that criminalizing something means that criminal elements are involved.

Well no shite there’s “criminality” involved because it’s illegal. That means there’s a black market. Remove the illegality of cannabis and the criminal elements associated with it will decline.

If it wasn’t illegal it wouldn’t be so dangerous. IMO the most dangerous part of an adult using cannabis is getting caught with it.

This chart is way better than yours.

Look at that reduction!

Aids deaths from the 90s?

It's almost like drugs for treating aids were created and were effective around that time, or something

Not sure what you're digging at here