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re: Does anyone care if Trump hung out with Epstein?

Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Motownsix
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:10 am to
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Of course not. As the story goes once Trump discovered Epstein was trafficking girls for oligarchs by trying to recruit a high school life guard at MAL, Trump kicked him out of MAL for good.


Don’t we wish that was true? The story about Trump and Epstein getting into a fight about Trump giving a 13 year old cash for an abortion is in some court documents.
The private party at Mar Largo for Epstein and Miss Teen USA girls was pretty legendary.
I’m not sure anyone really cares. It’s not going to change anyone’s opinion.
Posted by SlidellCajun
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:19 am to
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was anything to it they would have released it in 2015-2016.


I tend to agree but I suspect there’s damaging info for both sides of the aisle so that could be reason to keep it under wraps
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:22 am to
I thought we all already knew of their association

Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:28 am to
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at MAL?
No! That is not the claim. It never was the claim. He did do that elsewhere, which would have been reason to kick him to the curb.
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You may want to review the testimony from the Maxwell trial.
Wait, you are insinuating that Epstein was known to be grooming girls at MAL? You'll have to link that. Maxwell contacted Virginia Giuffre there, but it was neither on premises grooming, nor something MAL staff, much less Trump, would have been aware of.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:29 am to
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The story about Trump and Epstein getting into a fight about Trump giving a 13 year old cash for an abortion is in some court documents.


Link the court docs please.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:30 am to
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Don’t we wish that was true?
The claim was he was banned in 2007. The claim is backed by his membership ending in 2007. Those are the simple facts.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:33 am to
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Yeah, a "clue" that Trump in fact did not ban epstein from MAL before he was arrested as was claimed.
Ah, so the standard in your mind is not a court verdict. The standard for banning is mere accusation and/or arrest. How quaint.
Posted by SlidellCajun
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Member since May 2019
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:39 am to
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At least you can be honest with your double standard


No double standard.
I know trump hung out with Epstein. It’s documented with video evidence.
That concerns me but I believe that trump didn’t cross the line and have sex with underage girls (at least knowingly).
If he did then he needs to be put in jail
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:39 am to
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Wait, you are insinuating that Epstein was known to be grooming girls at MAL?

Now you're changing the talking point.

He said:

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The claim was he was grooming teen girls


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at MAL?
No! That is not the claim. It never was the claim. He did do that elsewhere, which would have been reason to kick him to the curb.


The specific discussion is if he was grooming/assaulting girls at MAL, not
if that impropriety was "known". 2 victims in the Maxwell trial testified they were brought to his property in Palm Beach, Florida.

And Epstein was known to be grooming girls prior to his ouster from MAL in 2007, as he was indicted on related state charges years prior to October 2007. He was indicted on FEDERAL charges prior to October, 2007 (I posted a timeline earlier, with sourcing). This behavior was in public documents in state and federal court prior to October 2007. That's a separate discussion.

Posted by TigerMyth36
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:40 am to
The stupidity of Elon's rant here is simple. If Obama and Biden didn't release information that showed Trump was up to illegal activity, then you know it didn't happen. Simple as that and it is as simple as that. It would have been released. Especially before the last election when they went lawfare crazy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:40 am to
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so the standard in your mind is not a court verdict.

When discussing Epstein, court verdicts are a rarity, and yet he's discussed at length on here all the time
Posted by SlidellCajun
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16401 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:41 am to
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You’re really asking if it matters if a man had sex with an underage girl? Yeah, that sorta matters.


I’m asking if people care if Elon musk is correct in his statement
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:42 am to
Implicated as in had sex with minors? Yes, it is bad and people would care. Implicated as in he knew him socially? No, it isn’t bad and why would it be
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:44 am to
Hung out a few times at the same party?

Nothing burger.


Was a regular guest on pedo island tapping 16 year old girls. Remove him immediately.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:45 am to
Didn’t Trump ban Epstein from Mar a Lago?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:54 am to
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When discussing Epstein, court verdicts are a rarity, and yet he's discussed at length on here all the time
Irrelevant to the claims of a nitwit extrapolating criminal complicity by virtue of Epstein not being banned from MAL following his initial arrest and release, and a couple of years before his actual conviction.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:02 am to
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And homos like you never said a peep, yet you crawl out of your basement when fake drama like this shows up to speculate that Trump fricked underage Eastern European whores and there are videos and hahahaha nobody every thought to mention it during the trials of Epstein or Maxwell or the elections of 2016, 2020, or 2024.

Literal retards.


You somehow took from my post that I'm a Biden supporter? I'm afraid your last line describes you perfectly. Please switch sides. You apparently have the emotional stabililty of a blue haired woman with a septum piercing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476607 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:07 am to
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Irrelevant to the claims of a nitwit extrapolating criminal complicity

Did he do this or just claim Trump knew (or should have known) of his issues prior to 2007?
Posted by PhtevenWithaV
Member since Jul 2022
1066 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:10 am to
The standard for banning someone from mar a lago is banning someone for mar a lago.

So if you claim Trump banned Epstein from mar a lago before epstein was arrested, but in actuality Trump didn't ban Epstein until a full year after his arrest. We can safely say he was not banned until after his arrest.

How is the the flow of time confusing for you?

2007 is after 2006, you don't need a court order to establish that I didn't think I would have to explain time to a grown assed adult capable of using a computer.
Posted by PhtevenWithaV
Member since Jul 2022
1066 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:11 am to
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claims of a nitwit extrapolating criminal complicity by virtue of Epstein not being banned from MAL following his initial arrest and release,


No you idiot, someone asserted Trump must be innocent because he banned Epstein before his arrest. All I did assert Trump did not ban him until a full year after his arrest. You're making shite up there buddy.
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