re: Do you know what conservatives were called during the Revolutionary War?

Opponents to the King wanted less government, they wanted more freedom, they were individualists.

They were about as far away from the lefties who want more government, higher taxes, less freedom in their thinking as you could be.

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Opponents to the King wanted less government, they wanted more freedom, they were individualists.

They were about as far away from the lefties who want more government, higher taxes, less freedom in their thinking as you could be.

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they also liked weed and despised a standing military, industrialists, and banks. pretty much the opposite of current conservatives.

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Yup that's why Eisenhower would've never been elected by modern republicans.

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if an actual political party was modeled after the founding fathers it would be a huge success. problem is that smarmy republicans are so fake that it could never take hold.

What about during the war of the roses? Or during the pelopanesian war? Or the Punic wars? What were they called then????

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we already know this

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Whole bunch of liberals who are against the "change and innovation" that will come from the tax bill and from removing unnecessary and burdensome regulations.

Sounds like the conservatives today are sitting in the Democratic Party.

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Do you know what Taxation without Representation means?

Yes. They were fighting against excessive taxes and an overbearing autocratic government like this....

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So no...

They were fighting against taxes being arbitrarily passed on them without any American representative in Parliament. They had absolutely no say in the tax policy by the British.

Yet, somehow “taxation without representation” has been hijacked by libertarians to simply mean “All taxation is theft and even the Founding Fathers thought so!”

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There was no fricking industry in the 1770's.

Besides I thought leftists had branded the founding fathers as so evil that they want to take their statues down but this week they are like leftists.

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Industrial revolution started in the 1750's

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The founding fathers did not dislike industrialists you god damn retard.

Alexander Hamilton literally led the charge in protecting american industry from cheaper foreign competition.

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the same Hamilton that was a central banking puppet?

Thoams Jefferson:
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

"While we have land to labor then, let us never wish to see our citizens occupied at a workbench,
or twirling a distaff. Carpenters, masons, smiths, are wanting in husbandry: but, for the
general operations of manufacture, let our work-shops remain in Europe. It is better to carry
provisions and materials to workmen there, than bring them to the provisions and materials, and
with them their manners and principles. The loss by the transportation of commodities across
the Atlantic will be made up in happiness and permanence of government. The mobs of great
cities add just so much to the support of pure government, as sores do to the strength of the
human body. It is the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigor. A
degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution."

“I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.”

Abe Lincoln isn't a founding father.. but he did say:
“The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. The banking powers are more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. They denounce as public enemies all who question their methods or throw light upon their crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe.”

“We may congratulate ourselves that this cruel war is nearing its end. It has cost a vast amount of treasure and blood … It has indeed been a trying hour for the Republic; but I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war. God grant that my suspicions may prove groundless.”

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Do you know what Democrats were called during the Civil War? Traitors and slave owners

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How does this level of ignorance persist? The entire South were Democrats and now they're Republicans it's the same group of people in the same lineage quit being a f****** retard