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re: Do you honestly believe we are Independent?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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actually, it is, by definition
youre a good little drone, i give you that much
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:30 pm to goatmilker
quote:Well of course, but you're talking about probably less than 1% of the population. And more power to them. But I'm talking about America in general. Are we independent. And if so, what are we independent of?
We are owned by the Federal Reserve and the International Banking Cabal. We are run by crony capitalism. Seriously, who are we independent of?
This country is bigger than you seem to think. Its not just banking, Wall st, politicians, DC, tweets and reading post.
Plenty of Americans live where they wish, do what they want and many live off the grid. Mountain folk, some on the plains, the outback of Alaska or people who spend much of their lives on the water all I think would take exception to your words.
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Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:31 pm to rocket31
I am arguing that because I see it everyday.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:32 pm to TX Tiger
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Are we independent. And if so, what are we independent of?
we have the best gun laws and freedom of speech, dont we folks?
so because of that lets just chalk up a big W for life in america
we are free boys
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:36 pm to rocket31
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we have the best gun laws and freedom of speech, dont we folks? so because of that lets just chalk up a big W for life in america
The vital roots of a great oak.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:36 pm to rocket31
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youre a good little drone, i give you that much
of the 2 of us, i'm the one who wants a lot more freedom in our respective idealistic versions of America
i just recognize that while we have a long way to go, we're still ahead of the field. that's worth something
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:37 pm to rocket31
I don't think anyone is arguing that they wish we were less 'free' or need to be less free.
But saying we are the best option on the block at the moment. I don't see how that is debatebale.
But saying we are the best option on the block at the moment. I don't see how that is debatebale.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:40 pm to CelticDog
quote:Are we?
We are independent of the British Empire
Who was Woodrow Wilson talking about when he made this statement:
quote:-Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
In 1933, Roosevelt declared bankruptcy for the United States. To whom?
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:41 pm to TX Tiger
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In 1933, Roosevelt declared bankruptcy for the United States. To whom?
well i don't even know if this happened, but when you declare bankruptcy, it's to your creditors
likely all the individuals and companies who had bought government bonds and companies/individuals with whom the government had contracts. declaring bankruptcy doesn't require a superior banking cabal
This post was edited on 7/4/17 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Good little Sheeple answer, exactly what the establishment wants you to spew 
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:46 pm to rocket31
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rocket31
You may be one of the few people on this board who gets this (this article was linked on Martin Berkhan Facebook feed...)
It relates to this thread as it is a false construct that is ensconced as part of "normal every day life" (consume...). Very few people think to question this...
LINK
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Priceonomics : How Breakfast Became a Thing By Alex Mayyasi
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You’ve probably heard that “breakfast is the most important meal of the day.” What you may not know is the origin of this ode to breakfast: a 1944 marketing campaign launched by Grape Nuts manufacturer General Foods to sell more cereal.
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The modern era of breakfast begins with cereal. Before its invention, breakfast was not as standard or routine. "The Romans believed it was healthier to eat only one meal a day," food historian Caroline Yeldham has said . Many Native Americans, Abigail Carroll writes in The Invention of the American Meal , ate bits of food throughout the day (rather than at set meals) and sometimes fasted for days at a time. Of medieval Europe, historians alternatingly write that breakfast was only a luxury for the rich, only a necessity for laborers, or mostly skipped. And while many American colonists ate breakfast, they were reputedly harried affairs that took place after hours of morning work.
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The Invention of Cereal Before cereal represented our over-sugared, overprocessed relationship with food, Americans viewed cereal as a health food. Its origins lie in health sanitariums run in the mid to late 1800s by some familiar names—like Dr. John Harvey Kellogg. It was a reform period when doctors were still often called quacks: Germ theory was just gaining prominence, and Dr. Kellogg’s favorite medical tool was a bath. His malady cures resembled spa treatments; “hydrotherapy” was popular at the time. Kellogg and his peers believed they could improve Americans’ health by changing their diets. They believed that too much meat and too many spices had negative effects, and they preferred whole grains to white breads. A dietary reformer named Sylvester Graham invented the graham cracker in 1827. James Caleb Jackson, who did not allow red meat at his sanitarium, invented a cereal that he named “granula” in 1863. And James Kellogg developed granola or corn flakes in the 1890s.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:48 pm to TX Tiger
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TX Tiger
Boy you have about the weirdest perspective on every issue including our independence.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:50 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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You may be one of the few people on this board who gets this
yes understanding a basic marketing campaign is far too advanced for us plebs
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yes understanding a basic marketing campaign is far too advanced for us plebs
Did not mean to insult. There are a ton of intelligent people on this board (some I agree with, some I disagree with). I enjoy your contributions SFP
I was referencing rocket's approach to eating (intermittent fasting)
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:54 pm to TX Tiger
quote:We are just so lucky to have YOU, one of the few persons on Earth, who "gets it" to enlighten us ignorant sheople.
That's why I asked the question. Five pages later, nobody (not one) has an honest answer.
This board fascinates me. Collectively, it is PETRIFIED of the truth, and I'm not sure why considering that human beings are naturally curious creatures and seeking truth would seem to be the most natural of acts.
Not here. The desperate attempt at clinging to their myths is the most entertaining part of all.
Thank you so much for your insight...
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:So you're saying we're independent from government because the laws are on our side?
You're talking about written laws; I'm talking about independence.
if laws don't take away our independence, then i'd love to hear what does
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yes understanding a basic marketing campaign is far too advanced for us plebs
This is top secret conspiracy theory shite that's way over our heads. The "breakfast" conspiracy reached its peak with the creation of Frosted Flakes.
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:56 pm to TX Tiger
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Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence
I'm bored and want to watch you spin your wheels
Source that Wilson quote.
This is gonna be fun
This post was edited on 7/6/17 at 10:22 am
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:56 pm to TX Tiger
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So you're saying we're independent from government because the laws are on our side?
no that's not what i said or implied
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:57 pm to TX Tiger
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Seriously, who are we independent of?
Our debtors, if we decide to not pay.
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