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re: Do you honestly believe we are Independent?

Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:13 pm to
thanks for proving my points?
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:13 pm to
It's a gilded cage with lots of fancy toys, but we have no freedom really at all. It us what we get instead of a merciless GESTAPO to keep us in line.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:14 pm to
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thanks for proving my points?


no clue.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476634 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:15 pm to
which developed, stable countries have more passive driving laws than the US?

you list drinking a beer at 21 but ignore the fact that in most (all?) of Europe, you can't get a driver's license until 18+
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68817 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:16 pm to
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list of things other countries can do that USA can not w/o govt permission

fish
drink under 21
build a house
own a gun
drive a car
collect rainwater
leave the country
start a business
smoke weed
get married

repeat after me slaves - I AM FREEE



oh, cry me a fricking river.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:17 pm to
We are independent of the British Empire, which was the purpose of the war.
well done, Ben Franklin, Th Jefferson and John Adams. And thank you Geo Washington too.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:19 pm to
The wildcard in this game is always the American people. Government I dont trust, politicians I dont trust. The people, I have faith in. If all was lost, we would have elected Clinton or just kept Obama in office. Europeans would have done just that. Are there nefarious things going on behind the scenes...yes BUT we keep living our lives and we do hold those accountable who do evil eventually.

God has blessed this country, and Hes not done with is just yet
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:19 pm to
im really unsure why you are continually attempting to compare US vs EUR - i dont think we want to be like them?

my point is that we do not have freedom here like we are sold to believe
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:20 pm to
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and if your theory about an international banking system is true, then your comment has no real, rational weight in responding to my comment.
Of course not. You're talking about written laws; I'm talking about independence.



Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476634 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:21 pm to
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im really unsure why you are continually attempting to compare US vs EUR - i dont think we want to be like them?

if not Europe, who are you comparing the US to?

Canada? NZ? Austrailia?

who are these mythical, more free countries? i've asked you point blank before and you avoided the question

plus, the only specific country you have listed is...in Europe (NED)

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my point is that we do not have freedom here like we are sold to believe

and my point is that even with this being true, we're still more free than any other developed, stable nation

i can go screen shot the post and re-post it if you need me to
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68817 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:21 pm to
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Zionist brainwashing


So, there it is.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476634 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:21 pm to
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You're talking about written laws; I'm talking about independence.

if laws don't take away our independence, then i'd love to hear what does
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:22 pm to
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oes that mean you feel we are not independent?
more independent than most

Less than I'd prefer
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476634 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:23 pm to
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So, there it is.

that was a sarcastic post, just fyi
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79933 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:24 pm to
You've got a couple of paranoid posters in this thread and one like Rocket who simply wants to be contrary. No point in wasting effort. Arguing will only entrench the delusions more.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:24 pm to
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It's a gilded cage with lots of fancy toys, but we have no freedom really at all. It us what we get instead of a merciless GESTAPO to keep us in line.
Agree. That's why propaganda is so important, to herd the flock into willfully accepting the establishment agenda as if it's good for us. That's the major role of our President. He's the top salesman for the establishment. Trump is no different. He's selling us on the establishment agenda as if it's good for us and what we've been wanting all along.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:25 pm to
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and my point is that even with this being true, we're still more free than any other developed, stable nation


yes. once again we live in the most comfortable place in the world. that certainly doesnt mean that other countries have specific freedoms which we do not.

im not saying there is a country better than america, ftr.

being "more free" than countries that are not themselves "free" is nothing to brag about
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150327 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:27 pm to
Bro, move to Somalia and do wtf you want!!

Damn Sheeple
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:28 pm to
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ne like Rocket who simply wants to be contrary


youre attempting to argue that its easy/comfortable to raise a family on 1 income in 2017

i mean, lol, pls go
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476634 posts
Posted on 7/4/17 at 1:28 pm to
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yes. once again we live in the most comfortable place in the world. that certainly doesnt mean that other countries have specific freedoms which we do not.

but we have specific freeodms they do not, and more of them

Europe, Canada, Australia, and NZ don't even have freedom of speech. we're talking about the most fundamental right behind property rights (Which they don't really have on the same levels, either)

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being "more free" than countries that are not themselves "free" is nothing to brag about

actually, it is, by definition
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