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re: Do you believe President Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election?
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:49 am to DawgfaninCa
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:49 am to DawgfaninCa
Nope ... but its sad that our country has political parties that value themselves more than they value our country.
Rig the debates against a large percentage of our citizens
Sell Uranium to foreign governments
Lie to families about the cause of foreign attacks on our citizens / military
Lie to the public about private meetings between AG and spouse of candidate under investigation
Destroy computers and emails under federal investigation
Ignore attacks against our law enforcement and instead publicly endorse riots disguised at protests
Fund international disasters with taxpayer monies only to find out the money really went to donors of politicians and not the areas of needs
Finance foreign terrorist countries with cash in the dark of night on a tarmac
Have campaign financed with money from foreign governments
Provide constitutional rights to foreigners living in other countries
Etc., etc., etc.,
Rig the debates against a large percentage of our citizens
Sell Uranium to foreign governments
Lie to families about the cause of foreign attacks on our citizens / military
Lie to the public about private meetings between AG and spouse of candidate under investigation
Destroy computers and emails under federal investigation
Ignore attacks against our law enforcement and instead publicly endorse riots disguised at protests
Fund international disasters with taxpayer monies only to find out the money really went to donors of politicians and not the areas of needs
Finance foreign terrorist countries with cash in the dark of night on a tarmac
Have campaign financed with money from foreign governments
Provide constitutional rights to foreigners living in other countries
Etc., etc., etc.,
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Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:49 am to DawgfaninCa
Only low IQ people believe he did.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:51 am to DawgfaninCa
quote:
Do you believe President Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election?
NO ONE believes the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians.
Even Hillary knows that's a lie.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:51 am to BamaAtl
quote:
Not every conversation. We also have instances of Trump campaign folk traveling overseas to meet with Russian agents - no phone records of in-person meetings.
And they just started the financial crimes look, to trace any wire transfers between Trump/RNC and the Russian hackers.
In it for the long haul
So. Trump. The idiot. Evaded detection by the world's greatest spy network while the network was ACTIVELY LOOKING.
Well. Mmkay then
Posted on 5/12/17 at 11:57 am to ShortyRob
To be fair, if Democrats were smart they wouldn't be Democrats.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:02 pm to BamaAtl
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In it for the long haul!
And THIS is the only goal - never-ending 'investigation' = nirvana for the DIMs
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:04 pm to DawgfaninCa
frick no
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:11 pm to DawgfaninCa
No, it's an absolute joke. It's just an excuse for why the bratty sore losers known as the Democratic party lost to a reality TV star who had no political experience. And not only lost, but were embarrassed by losing states that hadn't voted for a Republican (although he's not really 1) in many years.
I don't think I've ever seen someone own the minds of so many as Donald J Trump has the entire Democratic party, SJWs and the media. They can hardly even function as he has them on strings.
I don't think I've ever seen someone own the minds of so many as Donald J Trump has the entire Democratic party, SJWs and the media. They can hardly even function as he has them on strings.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:11 pm to ChineseBandit58
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What info from the DNC was detrimental to HRC?
I don't think the story is what, if any, impact it actually had on the election. If anyone associated with Trump's campaign worked with Russian agents to influence the election, it's a crime regardless if those efforts were successful or not.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:12 pm to BamaAtl
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Oh yeah, the Loch Ness monster in the SF Bay is perfectly believable, but Trump's team meeting with Russia to coordinate their hacks and leaks during the elections is a bridge too far!
At least I saw with my own eyes evidence of the existence of sea serpents when a sea serpent beached itself only 20 yards away directly in front of me to know (not believe) sea serpents exist and I have 3 videos to prove sea serpents exist and occasionally enter SF Bay. I have not seen any evidence to make me believe (not know) that Trump or any of his campaign staff colluded with the Russians to fix the election.
This post was edited on 5/12/17 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:15 pm to The Spleen
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If anyone associated with Trump's campaign worked with Russian agents to influence the election, it's a crime
Hmm.
So. If i know that a country has factually true evidence that my opponent is corrupt and i convince that country to release that evidence, that's a crime?
Mmmmmmm
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:15 pm to DawgfaninCa
I think he's more of a useful idiot, but those associated with the campaign pretty clearly either did or came close to doing so.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:15 pm to DawgfaninCa
I'm not a Trump guy, but my best guess is he did not collude.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:20 pm to DawgfaninCa
Nothing surprises me anymore so who knows. I find it disheartening there isn't more of a push from the general public to look into it more. At the very least he benefited from the Russians and he knows it, but I think we as a country need to take a serious look at what happened. For all of the talk about securing our borders and whatnot this should be a no brainer.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:31 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:
Nothing surprises me anymore so who knows. I find it disheartening there isn't more of a push from the general public to look into it more.
This is how I feel as well. The amount of people that seem to be happy as pigs in shite that a foreign government might have influenced our elections is frightening. It shows just how far in the toilet our country has fallen.
quote:
I think we as a country need to take a serious look at what happened. For all of the talk about securing our borders and whatnot this should be a no brainer.
You're 100% correct David. At least in my opinion.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:36 pm to earl keese
quote:
This is how I feel as well. The amount of people that seem to be happy as pigs in shite that a foreign government might have influenced our elections is frightening. It shows just how far in the toilet our country has fallen.
Happy?
Meh. I'm merely fascinated by how many people think this is new.
Also, frankly, location isn't a big deal to me. I mean really. Functionally speaking. At least what Russia released was fricking true.
Can the same be said for the New York Times and the Washington Post?
I mean, cause they ABSOLUTELY have influenced every election in my lifetime.........in a uniformly one sided manner.
Basically, at worst, what happened is that a foreign nation showed a preference for one candidate over the other and acted on it.
Which, is EXACTLY what happened in 2008 and not a soul gave a rat's frick. And, before someone says, "well, why did Russia prefer Trump", I'll go ahead and rhetorically ask, "why did Iran prefer Obama".
Posted on 5/12/17 at 12:49 pm to earl keese
Whether deeper ties from the campaign and Russia - that could include the president - exist or not, is not something that should come down to a "belief."
It is something that America should demand a concrete answer to. An answer that can be trusted with confidence because the process that produced that answer - whatever it may be - was credible and without corrupting influence.
If Trump truly believes in putting "America First," then he has a duty to appoint a person that is credible, extremely qualified, willing to take the investigation to wherever it may lead, and above all else, dedicated to serving the American people and the rule of law, not partisan interests.
It is something that America should demand a concrete answer to. An answer that can be trusted with confidence because the process that produced that answer - whatever it may be - was credible and without corrupting influence.
If Trump truly believes in putting "America First," then he has a duty to appoint a person that is credible, extremely qualified, willing to take the investigation to wherever it may lead, and above all else, dedicated to serving the American people and the rule of law, not partisan interests.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:09 pm to bonhoeffer45
Very well said bonhoeffer. Excellent post.
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:25 pm to ChineseBandit58
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DIM/LIB/MSN doesn't want this 'investigation' to ever end - that way they can keep up their outrage for decades, still looking for the evasive 'evidence' and alleging 'coverups.'
ok, but does the Rep party not do this, or did they not do this to Obama as well? Birth certificate, Benghazi, etc.? c'mon now... keep it 100...
both parties are shite... shite people, shite ideas, shite tactics... frick both of them....
Posted on 5/12/17 at 1:30 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:
It is something that America should demand a concrete answer to.
Its an entirely baseless accusation. There's your concrete answer. There has to be some logical starting point to justify an investigation. There's nothing there. Absolutely nothing.
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