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re: Do y'all think Trump will push for Marijuana legalization?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:37 am to upgrayedd
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:37 am to upgrayedd
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I think the stigma of the 1970's burnout is going away and people are coming to the realization that continuing to fight it is a waste of time and money.
Agreed. Pot is all but socially acceptable except for a tiny minority. I'm confident that we'll see full federal decriminalization within a decade. Two at the most, but I doubt it will take that long.
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:38 am to celltech1981
It's up to congress. He's already said he would sign
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:39 am to celltech1981
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so if they are in jail for selling weed but have no record of violent crime they should just stay in jail? dafuq you smoking?
What he's saying is that many are in jail for things other than just selling weed. If selling weed is a third strike and previous convictions were for violent crime, then that person may not be just some innocent guy slinging a little dope. Also, some defenders work out deals to drop violent crime charges in exchange for serving full, and lesser, drug crimes that were in their possession at the time.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:39 am to celltech1981
Would be a smart move for him.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:41 am to celltech1981
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will he drink if other baptists aren't around? that's usually the key
He said he hasn't had a drink in 30 years, but he would try weed if it were legal. It's amazing at how effective the Reagan anti-drug campaigns were in distorting public perceptions.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:41 am to celltech1981
He may do it in the course of his presidency, but I doubt it really becomes a key re-election position.
Dems will just nominate someone who is also pro-legalization. So it won't become a defining issue.
Dems will just nominate someone who is also pro-legalization. So it won't become a defining issue.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:43 am to cahoots
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Dems will just nominate someone who is also pro-legalization. So it won't become a defining issue.
That's the thing. No one in their pool of potential candidates has made any effort to do so, so they have a record of doing nothing. He has an advantage there.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:44 am to upgrayedd
quote:right but he could promote it in a way to make the evangelicals think that are the better people, just give them this.
If the Evangelicals can love a notorious philanderer, they can certainly be ok with someone who proposes legalization. What are they going to do, vote for the inevitable far left wing loon the dems are sure to run?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:47 am to upgrayedd
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It's amazing at how effective the Reagan anti-drug campaigns were in distorting public perceptions.
my mom is convinced that if you smoke weed you will 100% move to harder drugs.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:54 am to Jake88
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Nonviolents in prison is over stated. Dig into their history and you will find a violent past.
Yep. Not exactly sure of a violent past for most of them but no doubt the majority of them have a criminal past. I like the "three strikes and you're in" mandate some states have. At some point criminality has to have a punishment.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:55 am to celltech1981
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my mom is convinced that if you smoke weed you will 100% move to harder drugs.
Booze is always the #1 gateway drug, but it's so ensconced in our culture, no one is willing to acknowledge it.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:58 am to GatorReb
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I think the proper move would be to make it legal Federally then let the states decide for themselves.
The process should go like this:
The senate should pass a bi-partisan bill amending the Controlled Substances Act to reschedule Cannabis from I to at least II. This would make medical Cannabis federally legal. Then have the house pass it and the president sign it.
This is a great opportunity to repair some of the damage in Congress by having a clearly bi-partisan approach to decriminalizing cannabis.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:02 am to celltech1981
He'll give it to the states, imo
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:04 am to Homesick Tiger
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Yep. Not exactly sure of a violent past for most of them but no doubt the majority of them have a criminal past.
sure, lack of personal responsibility is to blame for a lot of this but here is what is often the process:
17 year old kid from a rough background knocks his girlfriend up and has to start makign money. selling weed is an easy way to make it since he doesn't have many job skills. he gets put in jail for a while. when he gets out he has trouble finding a job because of his criminal record but still has to make money to support his kid (there are many cases where if somebody doesn't pay child support they are jailed) or go to jail so he's back to selling weed and ends up in jail again.
this isn't always the case but shite, let somebody make a little money selling weed lol.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:09 am to celltech1981
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17 year old kid from a rough background knocks his girlfriend up and has to start makign money. selling weed is an easy way to make it since he doesn't have many job skills. he gets put in jail for a while. when he gets out he has trouble finding a job because of his criminal record but still has to make money to support his kid (there are many cases where if somebody doesn't pay child support they are jailed) or go to jail so he's back to selling weed and ends up in jail again.
Excuses all the way thru that statement. I'm not that forgiving for someone who repeats his past transgressions as a reason for failure in life. I'm just funny that way.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:20 am to Homesick Tiger
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Excuses all the way thru that statement.
sure their are, that doesn't make the law any less unjust.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:25 am to celltech1981
I think he's always been for States to decide.I'm sure he'll state this.
I think he will reign Sessions in on Marijuana Legalization.
States should decide and the individual States should prosper.Not the Feds.
I think he will reign Sessions in on Marijuana Legalization.
States should decide and the individual States should prosper.Not the Feds.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:28 am to celltech1981
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that doesn't make the law any less unjust.
For one offense, I'm in agreement with you but you do it a second, third or fourth time, that's nothing but pure evidence of having a disregard for the law.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:30 am to Homesick Tiger
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that's nothing but pure evidence of having a disregard for the law.
or they are in a rough economic situation.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:34 am to celltech1981
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or they are in a rough economic situation.
Then just go rob a convenience store or a bank if times are that dire. I mean if you know you're going to jail either way when/if you get caught, why not swing for the fence?
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