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re: Do we really need to spend gobs of money on brick and mortar schools?
Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:21 pm to TrueTiger
Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:21 pm to TrueTiger
Those are college professor worried about conservative websites
Not teacher worried about parents.
Again people don’t get brainwashed in college Well they do, but most don’t, and usually less by college classes.
Not teacher worried about parents.
Again people don’t get brainwashed in college Well they do, but most don’t, and usually less by college classes.
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 6:22 pm
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Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:22 pm to TrueTiger
Also less money to be spent on school supplies, workbook fees, uniforms, student fees etc. Not to mention reducing the need for multiple teachers teaching the same subject in one area.
With the right structure a single teacher could teach a single subject for a large portion of students in an area. Would be live at a certain time and after have vids archived online so they can be rewatched.
I don’t see it being very different than the teaching style of “here’s the lesson I’m suppose to teach, read chapters xyz and then do pages xyz in your workbooks. If you have a problem try to figure it out on your own or ask a classmate next to you. I’ll be at my desk on Facebook if you need me”
With the right structure a single teacher could teach a single subject for a large portion of students in an area. Would be live at a certain time and after have vids archived online so they can be rewatched.
I don’t see it being very different than the teaching style of “here’s the lesson I’m suppose to teach, read chapters xyz and then do pages xyz in your workbooks. If you have a problem try to figure it out on your own or ask a classmate next to you. I’ll be at my desk on Facebook if you need me”
Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:33 pm to TrueTiger
No...but brick and mortar schools where actually good before the Dept of Education was created
Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:40 pm to TrueTiger
The public elementary school about a quarter mile from our house was founded over 100 years ago and used to be one of the best in the state. It was in a shitty old mid-century building.
A few years ago they cut down a bunch of old-growth hardwoods to build a monstrosity that looks like a big ugly industrial/office complex with a DMV anchor. Increased classroom size (I mean class size but also rooms). Bussed people in from various places.... And voila! It has tanked in the rankings and put a drag on home values in a highly desirable neighborhood.
We walked by it today and noticed the big imposing eyesore of a sign that forbids people from using the playground.
I'm like, bitch, I've been paying for this piece of shite for 20 years and I've used this place to vote against John Kerry, Obama and Hillary and that's it. I'll slide down this fricking slide if I feel like it.
Public schools are mostly reeducation camps and daycares these days.
A few years ago they cut down a bunch of old-growth hardwoods to build a monstrosity that looks like a big ugly industrial/office complex with a DMV anchor. Increased classroom size (I mean class size but also rooms). Bussed people in from various places.... And voila! It has tanked in the rankings and put a drag on home values in a highly desirable neighborhood.
We walked by it today and noticed the big imposing eyesore of a sign that forbids people from using the playground.
I'm like, bitch, I've been paying for this piece of shite for 20 years and I've used this place to vote against John Kerry, Obama and Hillary and that's it. I'll slide down this fricking slide if I feel like it.
Public schools are mostly reeducation camps and daycares these days.
This post was edited on 4/28/20 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:46 pm to TrueTiger
University professors =/= teachers
I wish I could be a good for nothing tenured professor.
I wish I could be a good for nothing tenured professor.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:47 pm to TrueTiger
I think the next step would be to allow parents to watch the children in class on line in real time and even listen. A lot of this victimism and socialist stuff would be exposed. Also, parents aren't allowed to see certain test in public school. We need to get rid of that. Undisciplined kids can be sent home to learn remotely until they can behave, if the parent has to miss work for that then GOOD. Get those kids in line.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 6:55 pm to CoachChappy
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This is wildly idiotic and false! I beg my students’ parents to get involved in their children’s education. They don’t give a shite. I’m a baby sitting service for them.
Wife and I are in the school regularly. Volunteer for field trips, holidays, class help etc. Its sad to say you guys are our children's watchers. I just wish all the bullshite filler stuff or common core 10 different ways shite ended. Use that time to really build with the kids on other things. I also dislike a majority of the math material I see for my son is writing sentences. I understand that purpose but its such a damn waste of time.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:47 pm to momentoftruth87
At the high school level, a hybrid model would be successful everywhere. Younger kids need regular adult supervision. You could offer remote learning to families who wanted it and would be home to ensure the kids are compliant.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:51 pm to TrueTiger
I’ve proposed this to the wind.
Especially in urban centers. Kids that could succeed in a home environment that wouldn’t have to worry about the horrible social context of urban schools would only benefit.
I’d wager that Khan academy and paying for internet would be lots cheaper and 1000% more effective than what we’re doing.
If nothing else, allow it as an option.
Especially in urban centers. Kids that could succeed in a home environment that wouldn’t have to worry about the horrible social context of urban schools would only benefit.
I’d wager that Khan academy and paying for internet would be lots cheaper and 1000% more effective than what we’re doing.
If nothing else, allow it as an option.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 7:53 pm to momentoftruth87
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Use that time to really build with the kids on other things. I also dislike a majority of the math material
My daughter’s math teacher and I have been at loggerheads all year. Just fricking drill and practice. She’ll learn. She doesn’t need to discover the joys of math.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:08 pm to TrueTiger
Nope... the school system and most inter office positions in corporate America are outdated in design. Well, not using "zoom" as a good example...
But like bitcoin the future is there.
But like bitcoin the future is there.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:09 pm to Quidam65
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There will still need to be some brick and mortar for those professions where field instruction is needed: the physical and biological sciences, engineering, medical professions, and forestry among them.
You can earn a ABET accredited electrical engineering degree 100% online through Arizona state. Several companies, one is Labster produce “virtual labs” for physical and biological labs for use with high school and university courses. One of my kids graduated from Purdue in mechanical engineering in 2011, even then most of the labs were in a virtual environment.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:11 pm to TrueTiger
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Isn't all of remote schooling demonstrating that traditional school will go the way of the horse and buggy?
The only ones who might learn more effectively from this are gifted children on the spectrum.
99% of human beings need the in person human interaction. Think about every online instruction you have taken and compare it too the decent teachers you had in school who were effective.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:23 pm to TrueTiger
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Who is watching the kids at home while they "learn virtually"?
The parents, over the wifi camera.
Bwahahahahahahahhahhahahhahahahahahahhah
(Catching my breath...)
BwhahahahahahahahhahhahhahhahahabahBhhHH
Not sure if serious...but that's theory that doesnt translate to reality.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:26 pm to TrueTiger
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Do we really need to spend gobs of money on brick and mortar schools?
Did you have a positive high school experience?
(That’s the first thing that popped into my head when I read your post.)
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:30 pm to TrueTiger
The thread title confused the shite out of me. I thought you meant there had been some proposal for trade schools for masonry. Everyone in my dad’s side of the family has been in brick for decades if not a century.
But a school would do little good there as it is hands on experience that gets you learned.
Sorry for the thread derail
But a school would do little good there as it is hands on experience that gets you learned.
Sorry for the thread derail
Posted on 4/28/20 at 8:49 pm to Vestigial Morgan
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Not sure if serious...but that's theory that doesnt translate to reality.
What kind of kids are you baws rearing?
Mine knew how to behave.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:12 pm to TrueTiger
If the existing schools are turned into computer labs (online learning school), and just have a crew of teachers to run the thing, we'd save a lot of tax dollars by weeding out all those non teacher positions (support staff, strategists, assistant principals, and those people who make six figure salaries for BOE/School Districts). But parents who want their kids to stay home and do online education should have that choice.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:22 pm to TrueTiger
A vanishingly small number of people have the discipline for online education.
Socialization is also another core function of school.
Socialization is also another core function of school.
Posted on 4/28/20 at 9:45 pm to TrueTiger
I think you underestimate the importance of socialization and a transition from a child to a young adult.
Being apart from your parents is important for this development.
It's a free country and home schooling is certainly an option for some who choose to but I consider the above aspects of school away from home valuable.
Being apart from your parents is important for this development.
It's a free country and home schooling is certainly an option for some who choose to but I consider the above aspects of school away from home valuable.
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