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re: Do anti-vaxers who seem to cherish the thought of complications realize what that means?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
You’ve finally transitioned. You’d do great in Portland with your newfound powers.
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Is this what you doomcasters want?
People NEVER should have been made to choose between getting a shot and remaining employed or not and getting fired. Especially in a so-called FREE country. So whatever happens is on the VAX cheerleaders.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Do anti-vaxers who seem to cherish the thought of complications realize what that means?
I don’t wish death on anybody. But if the vaccine were to end up killing 60% of the world population...IMO that would be 60% less idiots I’d have to live with and I’m kind of interested in that world.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:10 pm to thetempleowl
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That being said, this pure blood nonsense is just you guys being stupid. And it's not just you guys being stupid, it's you guys broadcasting look at me, I'm an idiot. However, you are free to demonstrate to people that you are an idiot.
I'm unvaccinated because I see no use in being so, but I'm not one that has jumped on the pureblood thing. However, I'm going to point out that you posted what is quoted above in the same post that you argued you believe everybody over 19 should get vaccinated, which is an equally ignorant notion to the pureblood thing.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
I used to think you were one of the best posters on this site.
this post is completely blind and you dont even understand the issue you're arguing for.
Just because people point out bad things that they are against, doesnt mean they are FOR said 'bad thing' to happen.
this post is completely blind and you dont even understand the issue you're arguing for.
Just because people point out bad things that they are against, doesnt mean they are FOR said 'bad thing' to happen.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Is it true? Did you really get with a chick who took your balls from you? Holy shite, man.
First of all, the complications from the vaccine are real and are serious. It’s something most of us suspected could be possible whenever they rushed this thing out so quickly (especially the mRNA vaccine).
And secondly, if you don’t take the vaccine or the multitude of boosters that come with it then you are just taking the chance of getting complications from covid. If you take the vaccine you can still get covid and you can still die from either covid or the vaccine. These are facts. So why even fricking take the vaccine? We aren’t throwing this in your or anybody’s face. We are basically saying how fricked up it is for the government or anyone else to mandate an experimental vaccine that for all we know may be just as deadly as the fricking virus it’s supposed to protect us from. If you don’t like that, then tough shite.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:11 pm to Alt26
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No one is really "hoping and praying" negative effects occur as much as pointing out examples of when they do in contrast to the narrative sold to the public for months, going on years, that is was inconceivable the vaccine could come with its own level of risk.
This board almost exclusively agrees with that.
Why does the topic need to constantly be revised with the latest example?
It's not to proliferate the concepts b/c those concepts are already part of a dogma. So what's the real reason?
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The bottom line is that most people who have chosen to not get the vaccine really don't care if others have. They are just furiously tired of CONSTANTLY being lectured, browbeaten, and ridiculed for their decision...which has manifested into spite
I'm not doing that.
I'm talking about a specific behavior-meme that has developed.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Again, you are GROSSLY misinterpreting. Perhaps you should re-read the post you just responded to.
I don't care if you don't get vaxxed, but if this doomcasting is even close to being correct, the world is over as we know it.
quote:Of course
So, whether or not you get the vax, everyone should be hoping that it works well and without negative effects.
But, recognizing that it could have negative effects is NTO the same as hoping it has MASSIVE AND WIDESPREAD NEGATIVE EFFECTS that are world alterting.
Good God. How do you not recognize this? To RESTATE.
Let's pretend the virus DOES have some negative effects that turn out to be more common that anticipated. Those STILL could be relatively rare effects.
HOWEVER, they would STILL matter in the vax discussion BECAUSE the risk from covid varies so damend widely in the population.
Hell, I would recommend, even now, to an 80 year old, get the vax.
On the other hand, there is literally no risk profile whatsoever for the vax that would justify giving it to someone under 18 who doesn't have existing health issues.
And, obviously, there's a sliding scale in between.
This is what people are talking about and you should fricking know better.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:13 pm to Taxing Authority
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I thought it was a strictly an intellectual pursuit. Now you’re claiming to play faux-contrarian for the audience. Interesting.
No I'm addressing a (largely) groupthink-based echo chamber with behaviors that it is specifically guilty of performing.
quote:
Too bad you’re started a one-side does it thread.
Because this board is only "one side".
What good does making a "Herman Cain award proliferators are pieces of shite" thread do on this board in the current climate? Get a circle jerk going and make the echo chamber stronger? Sure. Anything of value? No.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:13 pm to Lg
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People NEVER should have been made to choose between getting a shot and remaining employed or not and getting fired.
I agree.
What does that have to do with my thread?
I'm anti-mandate.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:14 pm to SportTiger1
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I used to think you were one of the best posters on this site.
I have not changed.
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this post is completely blind
To what?
quote:
and you dont even understand the issue you're arguing for.
What am I arguing for?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:15 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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Is it true? Did you really get with a chick who took your balls from you? Holy shite, man.
No.
quote:
First of all, the complications from the vaccine are real and are serious.
Show me a verified link about this, with a real peer-reviewed study.
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And secondly, if you don’t take the vaccine or the multitude of boosters that come with it then you are just taking the chance of getting complications from covid. If you take the vaccine you can still get covid and you can still die from either covid or the vaccine. These are facts. So why even fricking take the vaccine?
I don't care if people get vaccinated.
I am anti-mandate.
What other strawmen do I need to address preemptively?
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Except it isn't and you're just engaged in a personal delusion unsupported by facts.
No I'm addressing a (largely) groupthink-based echo chamber with behaviors that it is specifically guilty of performing.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
If you’re vaxxed, why do you care if anyone else is vaxxed? Do you not believe the vax works? If you do believe the vax works then you’re good to go. Go about your life.
Sounds like you have your doubts that it does. And if that’s the case, why do you want people to get a vax you’re not even convinced works?
(And before you ask, I’ve been vaxxed since last April. Could not give less of a shite if anyone else is vaxxed or not. That’s their call and doesn’t effect me.)
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Um, even the CDC has recognized the blood clot issue.
First of all, the complications from the vaccine are real and are serious.
Show me a verified link about this, with a real peer-reviewed study.
There are obviously questions regarding how common they are, but stop acting like the only people who have noted vaccine issues are in a bunch of forwarded emails
It just makes this OP less intelligent than it already was.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:In a thread based 100% on a strawman, you probably should hold off on griping about being targeted with a strawman.
What other strawmen do I need to address preemptively?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
First of all, anti-vaxx means anti vaccine. These people are like Jenny McCarthy who don't believe in any vaccinations.
Anti-vaxx does NOT mean anti-mandate.
If I were anti-vaccine, I would have not taken the following vaccines:
Polio
MMR
Typhoid
Yellow Fever
Anthrax
Smallpox
Japanese Encephalitis
Pfizer COVID 1 and 2
Multiple Flu shots
I do not believe in using the federal government to force someone to take a vaccine in order to receive basic services or hold a job.
SlowFlo? More like HeavyFlo.
Anti-vaxx does NOT mean anti-mandate.
If I were anti-vaccine, I would have not taken the following vaccines:
Polio
MMR
Typhoid
Yellow Fever
Anthrax
Smallpox
Japanese Encephalitis
Pfizer COVID 1 and 2
Multiple Flu shots
I do not believe in using the federal government to force someone to take a vaccine in order to receive basic services or hold a job.
SlowFlo? More like HeavyFlo.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
The last year taught me that I thought about the whole vaccine/anti vaccine crowd the wrong way. I used to think it was crazy zealot leftists who were anti vax but I have learned on this board the weird rabid anti vax crowd are hard right people.
It’s really still a shock to me.
It’s really still a shock to me.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:18 pm to AussieRock
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On the other hand, there is literally no risk profile whatsoever for the vax that would justify giving it to someone under 18 who doesn't have existing health issues.
I don't disagree. Again, I'm anti-mandate.
Now that we know the vaccines aren't very good against stopping spread (at least with Omicron), it's not even a moral issue of risk-reward b/c the spread risk is absolute at this time. If you aren't within a cohort facing dangers, then there's no reason to get vaccinated.
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