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re: Do anti-vaxers who seem to cherish the thought of complications realize what that means?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
That’s as stupid as the r/hermancainaward crowd.
Both are fricked up and without empathy because they feel they’re on a “team”
Both are fricked up and without empathy because they feel they’re on a “team”
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:14 pm to TigerDoc
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Look at the hate-object that's been made of Fauci by the populists during both administrations.
Well, he didn't exactly start off well (outright lying about masks) and he likely lied about his/our role in funding the very research that likely created this thing.
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Medical populism (treating pandemic leaders as just another "elite" to demonize) is great grist for populist parties, but it sucks for public health.
The only geriatric the Left revered more than Fauci in 2020-2021 was RBG, dude. So I'll see your "medical populism" and raise you with "Bureacratic diety worship (where we pretend they're apolitical and non-partisan)"
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:14 pm to Shankopotomus
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That’s as stupid as the r/hermancainaward crowd.
Yes, it is a "it's the same picture.meme"
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Both are fricked up and without empathy because they feel they’re on a “team”
Exactly
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Who else is doing a better job *that isn't an island, or effectively an island (SK)?
Germany has half the per capita deaths. At US scale that would be >400k fewer deaths.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:17 pm to the808bass
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Fauci sucks for public health.
I didn't think anybody was still defending that silly little "I am science" twat. I thought wrong.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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A common theme of anti-vaxxers today is celebrating deaths
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SlowFlowPro
Oh frick you, you worthless cocksucking sack of shite.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:18 pm to TigerDoc
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Germany has half the per capita deaths. At US scale that would be >400k fewer deaths.
And almost half the rate of obesity.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:23 pm to TigerDoc
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Germany has half the per capita deaths. At US scale that would be >400k fewer deaths.
Did Germany do death certificate matching?
Did Germany count Covid deaths the same way?
Did Germany PCR test asymptomatic people?
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
The US response was indeed not great. But it's not really about whether Fauci was bad at his job. The response on the right wasn't to get rid of Fauci and put in someone more competent - it was to rail against people promoting the policies advocated by public health experts around the world - to literally shite on global public health expertise.
That great populist politics, but it kills extra folks.
That great populist politics, but it kills extra folks.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:26 pm to the808bass
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Did Germany do death certificate matching?
Did Germany count Covid deaths the same way?
Did Germany PCR test asymptomatic people?
Yeah we're not going to really have a grip on that data for a long time, also. The record keeping was not exactly orderly, efficient, or trustworthy.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:28 pm to the808bass
You don't have to nit-pick the cause-of-death data. Go look at the all-cause mortality. Part of the reason for our terrible all-cause mortality is social strife caused by politicizing a global pandemic. Part of it is poor execution.
Again, good for populist politics, terrible for public health!
Again, good for populist politics, terrible for public health!
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why would any rational person defend either?
Most won't, and don't.
You're wading into autistic waters when you're taking comments and memes made on a message board so seriously that you'll put this much effort into pressing the matter. Once you realize most people here are just venting and don't want to live in a world where everyone who's been vaccinated has a heart attack and dies you'll calm down.
Either that or you're a concerned troll.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:29 pm to TigerDoc
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That great populist politics, but it kills extra folks.
The stagflation the response is going to cause is going to kill plenty.
Hell, our young children are screwed. We may be facing a lost generation. Children lost IQ during the pandemic. Millions of kids who were at crucial developmental stages missed the development and were socially promoted.
Shutting down is costly (and it has/will cost lives).
This is ignoring the historic inflation we're experiencing. We're likely just facing Trump's inflation right now. Imagine what it's going to be in a couple years when we start to feel Biden's inflation.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:29 pm to Azkiger
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You're wading into autistic waters when you're taking comments and memes made on a message board. Once you realize most people here are just venting and don't want to live in a world where everyone who's been vaccinated has a heart attack you'll calm down.
Either that or you're a concerned troll.
Anyone who knows me would tell you it's much closer to autism.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Yeah we're not going to really have a grip on that data for a long time, also. The record keeping was not exactly orderly, efficient, or trustworthy.
The country by country data is so all over the map, I simply don't see how you can try to point to one versus another and possibly say, "see, they did so much better than ______ because of ..."
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
No arguments. We have a dysfunctional government.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Anyone who knows me would tell you it's much closer to autism.
That was more of an insult. You have a memed avatar and a memed picture in your signature. You're well aware of what I spoke of.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:32 pm to TigerDoc
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No arguments. We have a dysfunctional government.
Shutting shite down has consequences. It's not about dysfunction.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:35 pm to Azkiger
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That was more of an insult.
You can't insult a superpower, dude.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 4:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
Not shutting shite down is a fantasy. Your policy shuts it down or the virus does. Or you do what? Turn away people from your health care systems during spikes? I don't think public order holds up in that case unless you're an authoritarian system.
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