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re: DNI Gabbard Releases US-Funded Biolab Evidence, including Ukraine

Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:51 am to
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:51 am to
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Can you define the specific conspiracy theory?

Very few, if any, people said we funded no "bio labs" in Ukraine. The actual CT allegations were much more specific as to the type of bio labs and what kind of activity was going on.

This seems like your typical "kernel of truth" situation and not a "CT proven right" situation.


More than this, the context was the early phases of the full-scale war in Ukraine and various sources were trying to attribute Russia's motivation for invading (or at least to supposedly justify it) to US biology research there.
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:52 am to
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Now we have new evidence and Tulsi specifically mentions Gain-of-Function.

It will be interesting to see her full findings.


Guess who's been involved...

Gain-of-Function experiments.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 11:59 am
Posted by TuDog
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:53 am to
Ukraine the shithole?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:55 am to
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More than this, the context was the early phases of the full-scale war in Ukraine and various sources were trying to attribute Russia's motivation for invading (or at least to supposedly justify it) to US biology research there.


There was never even a consistent theme of the nefarious allegations of the "bio labs" to create a single CT to prove right. That's the funniest part.
Posted by Nurbis
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:59 am to
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What, specifically has been proven that we didn't know in 2023?


You quoted this on the first page from the 2023 discussion.

"Our mission at those labs and at hundreds of similar facilities across the world is to properly secure the substances being studied/stored there."

Gabbard specifically said gain-of-function research was being done. Those labs were not just for security purposes. That is what was alleged and what has now been proven.
Posted by TerryDawg03
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 11:59 am to
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Bruh, I wouldn't trust Rubio on this issue.


All the more reason to let him do it.

If he was skeptical and has come around, he’d be even more relatable on it.
Posted by Padme
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:01 pm to
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Gabbard specifically said gain-of-function research was being done.


So the Conspiracy theory from 2022 is specifically that GOF (nothing else) research was done at these labs.

Do we have evidence that this was dismissed by the MSM or other outlets from that time period?

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Those labs were not just for security purposes


The security was to secure the GOF research.
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:03 pm to
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You quoted this on the first page from the 2023 discussion.

“Our mission at those labs and at hundreds of similar facilities across the world is to properly secure the substances being studied/stored there."

Gabbard specifically said gain-of-function research was being done. Those labs were not just for security purposes. That is what was alleged and what has now been proven.



Destroyed him
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:04 pm to
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Destroyed him


Not at all. I already responded and gutted his post
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:05 pm to
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There was never even a consistent theme of the nefarious allegations of the "bio labs" to create a single CT to prove right. That's the funniest part
Bro, Putin saved us from those biolabs.
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:11 pm to
BWAHAHA

This is such a quintessential, textbook SFP thread. "Hey, don't look at that mountain. Look at this blade of grass"

Someone ask SFP how many trips Biden made to Ukraine.

Someone ask SFP about Hunter and Burisma

Someone ask SFP about gain of function revelations

Remember when the Chinese accused the U.S. of covid19? It sounded farcical and outlandish at the time

Let's see how many of my responses it takes before SFP starts lame-quitting again
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:13 pm to
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Can you define the specific conspiracy theory?


It's just a few posts above yours.



The theory was that the big reason so many in DC were warhawks on Ukraine was mainly due to trying to keep the existence of these biolabs secret. The almost unanimous and immediate response (read: marching orders to pundits and swampers) was along the lines of baseless conspiracy claims from the Right.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:16 pm to
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see DOD on a heavily redacted page, and a bunch of links to Black and Veatch's building of labs, which I thought was already well known public knowledge

You not see where they're outlining specific projects for specific viruses that were being researched at exact locations - all of which we were told didn't exist in the first place?

And when they finally admitted that the Department of defense had been funding those locations we were told that it was for basic public health purposes, and nothing nefarious like gain of function always is.
This post was edited on 6/12/26 at 12:49 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:18 pm to
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The theory was that the big reason so many in DC were warhawks on Ukraine was mainly due to trying to keep the existence of these biolabs secret. The almost unanimous and immediate response (read: marching orders to pundits and swampers) was along the lines of baseless conspiracy claims from the Right.


The article

First line

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It was a lurid and difficult to believe claim: that Ukraine was developing biological weapons with the assistance of the U.S. government.




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"The Kremlin is intentionally spreading outright lies that the United States and Ukraine are conducting chemical and biological weapons activities," U.S. State Department spokesperson Ned Price said earlier this month. He and other officials warn that Russia was working to create pretexts for its attacks on a sovereign nation.


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False claims of biological warfare have long been a favorite topic for Russian and Soviet propaganda. In the 1980s, the Soviet Union falsely claimed that AIDS was the result of U.S. government biological warfare research.

Once conspiracy theorists and right-wing influencers in the U.S. started running with the false claim of U.S. bioweapons development in Ukraine, Russia dug in. Twice this month, it called for emergency United Nations Security Council meetings to discuss its allegations. At the latest of these, several of the council's 15 members called the discussions a "charade."


So if you're relying on the NPR to define the conspiracy theory speficially, that means it's based around "biological weapons" and/or "chemical weapons" and/or "biological warfare".

What, specifically in the documents released by Tulsi today specifically references any of those 3 things?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:18 pm to
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all of which we were told didn't exist in the first place?




Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:20 pm to
Looks like Solomon was right. Tulsi is burning it down as she walks out the door.

Mind you, all of this is being done with Trump's blessing.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
21208 posts
Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:23 pm to
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This seems like your typical "kernel of truth" situation and not a "CT proven right" situation.


Welp, now I'm convinced he was 100% right.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/12/26 at 12:26 pm to
Absolutely. I asked Grok to summarize the new components to this information for the people who know all the words to Rocky Top:

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The core elements of US-funded biological research/threat reduction labs (especially in Ukraine) were already known and widely reported in 2022–2023 by accounts like @WarClandestine
and others, based on open-source documents, FOIAs, Ukrainian government records, DoD statements, and contractor info. However, DNI Tulsi Gabbard’s June 12, 2026, release (tweet + video + declassified ODNI slides PDF) adds official high-level validation, broader scope, new framing, and some compiled specifics.

dni.gov

What Was Already Known (2022–2023 Reporting)The US Department of Defense’s Biological Threat Reduction Program (BTRP, part of the broader Cooperative Threat Reduction/Cooperative Biological Engagement Program) had funded or supported labs and facilities in Ukraine since ~2005. A March 2022 DoD fact sheet explicitly stated ~$200 million invested, supporting 46 Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and diagnostic sites.

media.defense.gov

These were described officially as defensive: securing Soviet-era pathogen collections, disease surveillance, biosafety upgrades (often to BSL-2), training, and preventing proliferation. They were Ukrainian-owned/operated facilities, not secret US bases.
Specific Ukraine labs were documented (e.g., Kherson Diagnostic Lab, Central Reference Lab, Odessa, Uzhhorod, etc.), along with contractors like Black & Veatch, Metabiota, and Ukrainian firms. Pathogen work included agents like anthrax, tularemia, plague, Ebola, Marburg, etc.
Independent accounts (@WarClandestine
and others) compiled and shared maps, contracts, permits, and research details from Ukrainian sources, highlighting risks, sample collection, genetic work, and potential dual-use aspects. They faced heavy pushback as “Russian disinformation” or conspiracy theories.
Broader global context existed: BTRP/CBEP engaged ~20–35+ countries across Eastern Europe, Central Asia, Africa, Southeast Asia, etc., for similar threat reduction work. Some global scope was public via DoD/State Dept materials, though not always aggregated into a single “120+ labs” figure in mainstream coverage.

dtra.mil

Victoria Nuland and others confirmed “biological research facilities” in Ukraine during 2022 Senate testimony. Risks during the war (e.g., pathogen security) were discussed.

Mainstream and official responses often emphasized these were not offensive bioweapons programs (no evidence of that has emerged) and downplayed or denied the “US biolabs” framing pushed by Russia and independent voices.What Is New in Gabbard’s June 12, 2026 ReleaseThis is framed as “never before seen intelligence” from months of searching Intelligence Community (IC) holdings, with declassified slides (available at dni.gov/files/BIOLAB_Slides.pdf) and a direct video statement. Key additions:

dni.gov

Official DNI-level acknowledgment and declassification: The highest US intelligence official (ODNI) publicly compiles and releases this as evidence of a “longstanding United States government funding for more than 120 biolabs in over 30 countries, including Ukraine.” This quantifies and centralizes the global scope in one official package more prominently than before.
Declassified slides with Ukraine specifics (focus of the PDF): Over 40 labs built/supported in Ukraine; lists examples (Odessa Diagnostic Lab, Uzhhorod, Kherson, Central Reference Lab, etc.); details on construction costs (individual labs in the millions USD), contractors (Black & Veatch as integrator + Ukrainian subs), permits from Ukrainian Ministry of Health, and pathogen handling (anthrax, tularemia, TB, swine fever, Newcastle disease, MERS, SARS, Marburg, Ebola, Lassa, plague, Rickettsia, plus genome studies of highly pathogenic avian flu and other viruses in biocontainment). Emphasizes storage/research on Soviet-era especially dangerous pathogens (EDPs) and US training/support.

dni.gov

Political framing as cover-up: Gabbard states that “politicians, so-called health professionals like Dr. Fauci, and entities within the Biden administration’s national security team lied to the American people about the existence of U.S.-funded and supported biolabs, and threatened those who attempted to expose the truth.” This directly validates earlier independent reporting and accuses deliberate withholding.
Tie to gain-of-function (GoF) research and current policy: Released in support of President Trump’s Executive Order (EO 14292, May 2025) to end federal funding of dangerous GoF research worldwide. Notes many labs engaged in (or previously engaged in) research with hazardous/contagious pathogens, “in some cases to include dangerous Gain-of-Function research, with very little visibility or oversight.” ODNI issued new guidance for increased IC collection on these labs/facilities, already yielding details on ongoing clinical trials (raising ethical, financial, and security concerns).
Prior IC warnings highlighted: References previous IC assessments that a US-funded Ukraine biolab likel likely housed dangerous pathogens and was vulnerable during the Russia-Ukraine war.
Forward-looking commitment: ODNI will continue identifying exact locations, pathogens contained, and research conducted, for transparency and accountability.

Summary of NoveltyThe existence, Ukraine focus (~46 labs, $200M+), specific labs/pathogens/contractors, and defensive framing were not secret and were covered extensively in 2022–2023 (including by @WarClandestine
via documents that closely align with these slides). Russia’s claims were largely dismissed at the time.What’s new is the official, high-level DNI declassification and presentation of compiled IC evidence; the explicit global tally (>120 labs in >30 countries); strong accusations of prior lying/cover-up by officials like Fauci and the Biden team; direct linkage to banning risky GoF research; and new IC collection efforts on clinical trials and oversight gaps. It elevates and validates earlier independent work into an official narrative under the current administration.The slides themselves appear to draw from or parallel previously available open-source/contractor data but are now packaged and declassified as IC intelligence. No evidence of offensive bioweapons programs is presented (consistent with prior assessments); the emphasis is on risky/poorly overseen pathogen research and the need for transparency. This release is part of broader Trump-era efforts on biosecurity accountability. Reactions have been polarized along existing lines. For primary sources, see the DNI press release and the BIOLAB_Slides.pdf.



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