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re: DNA Testing Company Admits Giving White People Fake African Ancestry To Screw With Racist

Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by Pelican fan99
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:06 pm to
I always knew those things were a scam
Posted by okietiger13
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:06 pm to
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Ancestry would be the same,unless they have different fathers,which would be possible,but pretty unlikely.

That’s not how genetics works. Half your DNA comes from your father and half from your mother. If you have a sibling, your mother and/or father may have provided a different half of their genes to them. That’s a very simplistic way to put it but it’s basically how it works
Posted by okietiger13
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:09 pm to
Triplets who were not identical would absolutely have different DNA strings that they would’ve gotten from the 2 parents.
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:20 pm to
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That’s not how genetics works. Half your DNA comes from your father and half from your mother. If you have a sibling, your mother and/or father may have provided a different half of their genes to them. That’s a very simplistic way to put it but it’s basically how it works

So,you are saying? " To follow a DNA path,you would have to know Absolutely, which set of DNA that each parent provided,from an almost infinite array of possibilities.
Posted by LSUwag
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:21 pm to
frick me! That was one of the gifts I bought my wife for Christmas.
Posted by okietiger13
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:26 pm to
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So,you are saying? " To follow a DNA path,you would have to know Absolutely, which set of DNA that each parent provided,from an almost infinite array of possibilities.

I don’t know what would be required to know for certain where your earliest ancestors originated from. I just know the basics of how DNA is transferred from parents to offspring. If the same DNA was transferred to each offspring of a couple, all of their kids would be identical and the same sex.
Posted by okietiger13
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:27 pm to
I know the companies suggest having all of your closest relatives take the test as well so you get a more accurate picture of your heritage.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:29 pm to
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That's common in academia too (as in the only way things are done). Any claim has to be cited. I think it predates social media to be honest

Academia is completely different than discussion. All we are doing on here is roughly the same thing that used to happen between two people or groups of people 30 years ago in person

What? You think we all walked around with reams of paper in our pockets ready to pull them out every four sentences

No. Unlike the lazy fricks of today if someone supplied information in a conversation that we didn't have confidence in or hell even if we had confidence in it we checked. Our selves.

He'll 90% of the shite I know whether it be in politics or in general life is a result of me checking shite someone has told me about.

If you don't know how to do that yourself then it's really somewhat futile for anyone else to do it for you.

Trying to treat normal everyday discussions weather in person or on a message board as if they are the equivalent of dueling academic papers is fricking retarded

I mean heck. If I make an insertion and then you ask for a link what the frick do you think I'm going to give you? I'm going to give you a link that agrees with me. You shouldn't just accept that shite.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 3:30 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:29 pm to
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I don’t know what would be required to know for certain where your earliest ancestors originated from.


Usually population data, as in the DNA tests from people of that region. You can separate it into mtDNA, Y-chromosome, autosomal DNA, among others.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:31 pm to
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Triplets who were not identical would absolutely have different DNA strings that they would’ve gotten from the 2 parents.


And it would be handed down from their parents,and theirs.
If 100% siblings,can have different ancestry,then the whole thing is worthless, that is my point.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:32 pm to
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If the same DNA was transferred to each offspring of a couple, all of their kids would be identical and the same sex.



Well yes but I can't pass on DNA that shows African American Heritage for one child Filipino Heritage for the other child and Swedish Heritage for the Third with no crossover
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:34 pm to
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Trying to treat normal everyday discussions weather in person or on a message board as if they are the equivalent of dueling academic papers is fricking retarded



I'd argue that the the origin of the impulse is probably from academica, which is exacerbated by social media. Message boards are a little easier to have that sort of academic discussion because of the ease of availability of the information. The availability of that information through phones has extended that impulse to the culture at large, so much so that discussions are often interrupted by the search for citations for claims, at least in my experience.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:36 pm to
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If your first name is Steve, Paul, John or Mike



Posted by okietiger13
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:38 pm to
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Well yes but I can't pass on DNA that shows African American Heritage for one child Filipino Heritage for the other child and Swedish Heritage for the Third with no crossover

Based off the DNA video I watched when I did mine, yes, you can. I’ll see if I can find it.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:39 pm to
You'll get down voted but quadroons and octaroons got in to families.

No one would pass the one drop test.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:42 pm to
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Ancestry would be the same,unless they have different fathers,which would be possible,but pretty unlikely.

If it is verifiable that they have the same father,but different ancestry,using the same test,then it would have to be labeled junk science.

I thought even even brothers and sisters from the same parents didn't have the exact same DNA ancestry.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:43 pm to
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Based off the DNA video I watched when I did mine, yes, you can. I’ll see if I can find it.

I know it's inappropriate to call people idiots but God damn you're an idiot
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:47 pm to
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The availability of that information through phones has extended that impulse to the culture at large, so much so that discussions are often interrupted by the search for citations for claims, at least in my experience.
the problem is what you are describing here is really just fake knowledge. Half the people looking for citations merely grab up the first thing that seems to agree with what they said and throw it back at you. They don't take the time to have understood it in the first place and don't really have the knowledge to back up the idea. The same goes for most internet rebuttals.

We're not talking like to academics here each of whom heavily researched a subject and then discussing it. My experience is that the internet is full of people who use Google to pretend they are smart and well-informed when all they are really doing is citing talking points and then grabbing websites when asked

In addition asking for a link every time something comes up in discussion completely discounts acquired knowledge

I mean I'm 50 years old and I can guarantee you that I have no fricking idea where I originally Source things I where I originally sourced things I learned 20 years ago

Moreover I also don't tend to bookmark everything I read. Which means there's a pretty damn good chance if you ask me to cite something I read two years ago I'm not going to be able to find it. That doesn't suddenly make it invalid

It's a discussion. We aren't doing research papers
Posted by okietiger13
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:52 pm to
LINK

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People typically have 23 pairs of chromosomes, with one chromosome in each pair coming from the father and one coming from the mother. Each chromosome contains hundreds to thousands of genes.

Because people usually have 46 chromosomes and only 23 are passed on to a child, half of a parent’s chromosomes are not passed on to his or her child. If chromosomes were passed on as-is (without being altered in any way), inheritance would typically look something like the chart below, with genes from some ancestors being completely lost within a couple of generations.

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If you think of your parents’ DNA as jellybeans in jars, you get 50% of the jellybeans in your dad’s jar and 50% of the jellybeans in your mom’s jar to make your jellybean jar.

Because we scoop whole jellybeans without cutting them in half, it’s possible that your father has red, blue, green, yellow, purple, gray, turquoise, and orange jellybeans, but that your scoops don’t have any red jellybeans from your dad’s side. This doesn’t mean that you didn’t descend from a red jellybean dad; it means only that you didn’t inherit any of your dad’s red jellybeans.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31822 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:53 pm to
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I thought even even brothers and sisters from the same parents didn't have the exact same DNA ancestry.


That is correct,but supposedly,there is enough similarity,that you can identify 100% siblings,and separate those from 1/2 siblings.

Think about this though. If you have the same mother and father,you have exactly the same ancestry.
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