re: DNA Testing Company Admits Giving White People Fake African Ancestry To Screw With Racist

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Well I'm not sure that this "model" has any relevance for prehistoric groups of early hominids, as civilization is a Neolithic development. Which is again why I pointed out that the difference between ancestral apes and anatomically modern humans is the ability of the latter to master their environment through farming, which is a necessary function of civilization.

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I am only a layman,but archaeology and anthropology are my 2 top interests,for 45+ years.

To my way of thinking,farming, especially developing food crops that have short growing seasons,such as wheat,would happen in an area with a short growing season.
Areas that have always been paradise,don't inspire much ingenuity.

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Areas that have always been paradise,don't inspire much ingenuity.

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A common theory. I can't remember who said this (Maybe it was that lady from The Chalice and The Blade) but it has been suggested that early hunter-gatherer societies were very opulent.

Regardless, the development of agriculture doesn't discount the "out of Africa" models, as where agriculture could develop it did, namely in the Upper Nile and the Sahel region north of the Sahara, and the Abyssinian region is included in one of the 11 "centers of origin" for wild crop relatives.

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One of the dumbest beliefs in the world created entirely by social media culture.

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That's common in academia too (as in the only way things are done). Any claim has to be cited. I think it predates social media to be honest.

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Regardless, the development of agriculture doesn't discount the "out of Africa" models, as where agriculture could develop it did, namely in the Upper Nile and the Sahel region north of the Sahara, and the Abyssinian region is included in one of the 11 "centers of origin" for wild crop relatives.

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How long has it been since they discovered The Ice man in The Italian Alps? With his copper ax,dried food and such?
Everything about him,tells about a level of sophistication,that we didn't know they had at the time, a long way north of The Nile.

Oh,I want you to know that I appreciate this discussion.

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Oh,I want you to know that I appreciate this discussion.

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No problem. I do dispute the notion of a multi-regional hypothesis for early hominid origins, as the fossil record for the "out-of-Africa" model, when combined with the genetic data, makes it very strong. The recent references to Graecopithecus always seem to avoid the fact that there is little evidence connecting that fossil to early Homo groups, and there would need to be far more fossil evidence to connect Graecopithecus to Homo, as at this point we can only say that the Eastern Mediterranean is a possible site for ape diversification, but we can't say that it is definitely the origin of early hominids, as the evidence on hand only supports that the fossil is distinct from Chimps. Even then there is the proposal that another fossil found in Greece, Ouranopithecus, is a form of early hominid, though it is almost certainly not related to later hominids.

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If you are referring to Otzi, then he was dated to around 3200 BC, which is again Neolithic in origin, and doesn't discount the "out-of-Africa" model. For reference, the Pyramids in Egypt were built around 2600 BC.

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Yes,but everything about him,implies that he was part of an old neighborhood and civilization.
Crop growers and shepherds,smiths and hunters,weavers and woodworkers.
He wasn't from some new civilization.

And again,because of the activity of man,all over Europe,evidence of early man,is harder to find.
His body art,even showed a sophisticated level of acupuncture.

His diet indicates that yes he was sedentary. He's a complicated case. A gut study indicated that he had bacteria that have been found in Northern India populations, but which are rare in Europe. Of course, this doesn't mean much, as there was a great deal of trade in the West Asian corridor (as in the beginnings of the Silk Road), but there are a lot of complicated suggestions that the variety of evidence indicates. He could have had more Neanderthal DNA, he's very closely related to Southern Europeans populations, and his genetic data shows some mtDNA which aren't seen very often in European data sets.

He had the blood of 4 other men on his goatskin vest... that shite is fascinating to me.

This may have already been put out,but I would like to know: How close were those other people related to him,and how closely to each other.

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NA Testing Company Admits Giving White People Fake African Ancestry To Screw With Racist

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And now your DNA is in the database. Good luck with Big Brother.

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I'm taking classes again in order to prepare for trying to get an advanced degree in population genetics. I'm obsessed with this stuff.

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Good luck to you,just let the evidence guide you,and not the other way around.