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re: DNA Testing Company Admits Giving White People Fake African Ancestry To Screw With Racist

Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:45 am to
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:45 am to
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7.2 million year old fossils found in Greece and Bulgaria point to human ancestors being present far earlier in that region than believed.


That would damn sure predate Lucy. By a lot.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:45 am to
I always knew there was a reason I liked Baklava.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:46 am to
Man, Gravy is not gonna be happy about this
Posted by Ebbandflow
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:00 pm to
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Google it. This all came up earlier this year.

7.2 million year old fossils found in Greece and Bulgaria point to human ancestors being present far earlier in that region than believed.

This all comes from the University of Toronto.


Well that's all well and good except for all of the most reputable sources still say Africa is the Cradle.

National Geographic

Not enough evidence to support European Origin: Business Insider

Sorry but me before you rile up all the natives on here thinking that Europeans are the Cradle of human civilization and that Africans evolved on their own you're going to need extraordinary evidence
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:06 pm to
I'm sure it's already been said... but the irony is that the racists are the ones playing the jokes (by their standard of the word racist)...

Africa is a landmass, not a race.
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:07 pm to
I'm 99% white, baws. The 1% I don't want to talk about. I can't help it if GGGGG-grandpa got rowdy one night on the plantation.
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:11 pm to
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Sorry but me before you rile up all the natives on here thinking that Europeans are the Cradle of human civilization and that Africans evolved on their own


If you consider that the DNA was previously linked to the earliest found fossils,and that man migrated from that point,but then find much earlier fossils,you still have to consider that the DNA originated from the oldest find,and then migrated from there.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Sorry but me before you rile up all the natives on here thinking that Europeans are the Cradle of human civilization and that Africans evolved on their own you're going to need extraordinary evidence

You understand how scientific theory and the scientific method work, right?
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:55 pm to
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7.2 million year old fossils found in Greece and Bulgaria point to human ancestors being present far earlier in that region than believed.



There are some deep problems with the theory that there was a "European" origin that was distinct from Africa and Eurasia. Firstly, during the Late Miocene period, Africa collided with Eurasia, specifically in West Asia/Anatolia, which made interchange from East Africa, which was drying do to shrinking rain forests, to Eurasia slightly easier. Europe was not a distinct entity in this regard, especially as I understand it, the waterways which would prevent migration during later periods did not yet exist. There was also a global fall in sea levels and a temporary drying up of the Mediterranean (called the Messianian salinity crisis).

Secondly, the interesting thing about the Graecopithecus is that they were fossil that "could" be related to later hominids, but more specifically, they were not related to the Pan genus. But early Homo migration has much more solid evidence of coming from East Africa, and the Graecopithecus finding doesn't dispute the later migrations. The Miocene period featured numerous migrations of ancestral apes, and the Graecopithecus finding does dispute the timeline, but doesn't dispute early Homo migrations, and thus isn't very conclusive in terms of determining the origin of the Homo genus, as the evidence for that genus is very much East African in origin.

I'm reading the two papers published about Graecopithecus right now (again) but from what I remember, the researchers didn't go so far as to suggest that early Homo hominids came from anywhere else other than East Africa. That people are so conclusive about the "European" origins of early Hominids while ignoring the genetic evidence for East Africa is very odd to me.
Posted by Cruiserhog
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:58 pm to
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heir source is “Morgan, who works for one of the major ancestry testing companies” so we don’t know which one…


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Posted by Abadeebadaba
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:02 pm to
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You understand how scientific theory and the scientific method work, right?

You wasted this post on him.

I find it funny that most people just want a better understanding of humanity. While racists like ebbandflow want afrocentric views to stay unchallenged.

Funny thing about the we wuz kangz shite is that it is a very, at least to my experience, commonly accepted thing. Ever look at this and think wtf? You know because a whole sect of people believe the are not equal, but the original or the true if you will. What does that sound like to you?
Posted by auggie
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:05 pm to
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which made interchange from East Africa, which was drying (do to) shrinking rain forests, to Eurasia slightly easier. E


I think you meant " due to".
Do you really want to say,that during a land mass collision,migration would be easier,to one direction than another?

I also think that the theory that you subscribe to,leaves out 1 undeniable fact about human beings: That the marginal ones,get pushed outwardly.
If you think about this,you can get an idea of why great civilizations sprung up in some places,but not in others.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:14 pm to
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I think you meant " due to".



I did indeed.

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Do you really want to say,that during a land mass collision,migration would be easier,to one direction than another?



In the absence of technology, and namely, tools to make other tools which would be needed to navigate large waterways, migration through areas that are physically connected would be much easier and the preferred path for any group of animals. Regardless, the Graecopithecus findings do nothing to upset the genetic data that suggests the "out of Africa" is outdated. Even the alternative multi-regional hypothesis of the 80s has given way to the weaker "out of Africa combined with archaic admixture."

The tectonic collisions would be relatively slow as well, happening over a period of millions of years.
Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:16 pm to
Maybe this is how Warran became Squatting Bitch.
Posted by sf46
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:22 pm to
Those tests are not yet accurate enough to pin point much of anything. Most of what they give is generalities. Most people on the planet have some percentage of "African" ancestry. That African can mean a lot of things. It can mean black, Arabic, Jewish, or even some Dutch or German.
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:23 pm to
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I also think that the theory that you subscribe to,leaves out 1 undeniable fact about human beings: That the marginal ones,get pushed outwardly.



Are you suggesting that the groups who are "marginal" are the ones who leave? I don't think that has as much weight, even if it was true, with regards to pre-history, as prehistoric groups had very little ability to master their environment, which is a necessary function of civilization. Groups would go where there was resources, and would be pushed out by virtue of either being out-competed for existing resources (by the same or rival species) or from the absence or disappearance of resources.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 1:25 pm
Posted by auggie
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:31 pm to
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Are you suggesting that the groups who are "marginal" are the ones who leave?


Yes, I am damn sure suggesting that.
The more successful,will form a core,close knit society,based at the best water sources and hunting grounds,and the others will be pushed further and further to the fringes.
They will need to use more territory per person to survive,thus hampering close knit civilization from forming.
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:34 pm to
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Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 1:40 pm to
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Yes, I am damn sure suggesting that.
The more successful,will form a core,close knit society,based at the best water sources and hunting grounds,and the others will be pushed further and further to the fringes.
They will need to use more territory per person to survive,thus hampering close knit civilization from forming.




Well I'm not sure that this "model" has any relevance for prehistoric groups of early hominids, as civilization is a Neolithic development. Which is again why I pointed out that the difference between ancestral apes and anatomically modern humans is the ability of the latter to master their environment through farming, which is a necessary function of civilization.
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