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re: DJT on Slotkin/Mark Kelly video - Seditious behavior from traitors. Lock them up???

Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:46 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:46 am to
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its a stupid argument.


He accused the of sedition.

Where is the sedition.
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:46 am to
If H1B Trump doesn't lock them up, he is a lame duck.

No more talking. Actions or STFU

Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30258 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:46 am to
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No. I'm just preemptively avoiding irrelevant digressions that aren't necessary for the discussion at hand.

They said that the administration is pitting military members and the intelligence community against American citizens. What orders has the CiC given that do this? Be specific.
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If those orders of the CIC are illegal, then is it sedition? Yes or no

What orders are you talking about? Be specific.
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Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24238 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:46 am to
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If you cannot cite an illegal order..what is the point of the message? Think real hard. It’s not even thinly veiled.

Right. The whole video feels like there's a "wink and a nod" pretty much telling military members "you get to decide what an illegal order is" at best.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:47 am to
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No, you don't.


Where is the sedition?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476642 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:47 am to
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At least you didn't deny it.

The laughter should have told you that
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19473 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:47 am to
Bleeding pussy.

When you're in the cuck chair do you enjoy watching the wife get railed?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:48 am to
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Who gets to define an unlawful order?

The courts, ultimately.

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:48 am to
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Who gets to define an unlawful order?


There are conceivably gray areas. You may run the risk of court martial if you disobey a morally ambiguous order that is later deemed lawful. Not everything is as cut and dried as Calley/My Lai.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476642 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:49 am to
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They said that the administration is pitting military members and the intelligence community against American citizens.

And that's also irrelevant to the discussion of sedition.

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What orders has the CiC given that do this?

You already quoted the response

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. I'm just preemptively avoiding irrelevant digressions that aren't necessary for the discussion at hand.


Specific examples are not necessary when discussing a concept, generally. It's a diversion to create irrelevant digression.

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What orders are you talking about?

Illegal ones.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:49 am to
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Bleeding pussy.


where is the sedition?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47573 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:51 am to
If someone accuses the president of being unlawful, then in the next breath asks the military to disobey that president, I think the argument for seditious behavior could certainly be made.

But be consistent in your role as sfp's ventriloquists dummy. If Kelly and Slotkin are protected by the first amendment in accusing the president of criminal behavior, then the president is equally protected in accusing them of seditios language.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19473 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:51 am to
They are in "the act of fomenting sedition".
They are telling them to disobey orders from their CIC.

Can't make it simpler
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47832 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:52 am to
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dont think that bothers you in the least though


It obviously bothers you a LOT

Handle the situation DJT
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:52 am to
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If someone accuses the president of being unlawful


They didnt.

Where is the sedition?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476642 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:53 am to
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They are telling them to disobey orders from their CIC.

Only illegal orders.

What's unlawful about that?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47573 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:53 am to
Remember kids, The same people who told you that saying "go to the capital" was an insurrection are telling you that asking the military to disobey the president isnt sedition.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:53 am to
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They are telling them to disobey orders from their CIC.


Legally disobey orders that are unconstitutional.

If biden were POTUS, you would love these people.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2377 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:53 am to
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I'll ask the same thing I did in the other thread: How can following the law ever be sedition?


The military kills people. In a lot of cases, whether or not it is legal depends on who gave the order.

If a family gets droned in Afghanistan, that is just a mistake, but not illegal because it was ordered by commanding officers.

The military flies into another country without that country's knowledge, storms into a home, and guns down unarmed people. That order is legal because it came from the president.

Should a soldier decide for themselves that those orders are illegal because they are killing unarmed people?
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4717 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:53 am to
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Where is the sedition?
You don't get to pick and choose which orders to follow. Thats the reason for " that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me". Turned out that the order to take the covid jab was unconstitutional, yet no one could prove that at the time. If they refused to follow the order, they were punished and kicked out (Trump later allowed them to come back if they wanted to). If they followed the unconstitutional order, they now can't untake the jab....

You and your libtard buddies are trying to use this to attack Trump as a dictator.
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