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re: DJT on Slotkin/Mark Kelly video - Seditious behavior from traitors. Lock them up???

Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:33 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:33 am to
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Exactly what are you asking?


The question is clear and simple

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How can following the law ever be sedition?


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Are you suggesting without saying, Trump is acting in a manner inconsistent with the Constitution?

For purposes of this discussion, I made no comment on that, as it's not necessary for the discussion.

That will only lead to digressions irrelevant to the discussion debating individual actions of Trump. There is no need to destroy the thread in that manner.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:34 am to
Please show me the illegal order. I'll wait.

They are ginning up sedition....which is illegal, oh great one.
This post was edited on 11/20/25 at 10:36 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47573 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:34 am to
I thought you were better than this, but I guess I was wrong. Its cute enough to play these little semantics games or engage in contrarian naval gazing like slofag loves to do 60+ times per day for over 20 years on this forum, but lets not pretend this was just a PSA by dems that soldiers can disobey illegal orders. They dont need to be reminded of that.
The video specifically accuses the president of pitting the military and IC against US citizens and threatending democracy. Those are their words. Then they urge these people to disobey "unlawful" orders in an era where virtually 100% of Trump actions are met with a partisan injunction - legality be damned. This is not acceptible language.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30258 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:34 am to
You said:
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I'll ask the same thing I did in the other thread: How can following the law ever be sedition?

When asked what the illegal orders were, you then said:
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Well, the Democrats didn't specify so it's not really a relevant question. That we're making more general statement so we have to analyze that statement for itself only.

All we can do is analyze exactly what they said and determine whether that is illegal or not. And all that they said was military members do not have to follow illegal orders and their duty is to follow the laws of the country and the Constitution. How can that be Sedition?

So basically, you're talking out of your arse in the usual fashion. Urging military members to not follow the orders of the Commander in Chief is seditious.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:34 am to
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I’ve watched the video and my opinion does not change



If you actually did, you know Trump is lying to you.'


I dont think that bothers you in the least though
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:35 am to
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So basically, you're talking out of your arse in the usual fashion

No. I'm just preemptively avoiding irrelevant digressions that aren't necessary for the discussion at hand.

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Urging military members to not follow the orders of the Commander in Chief is seditious.

If those orders of the CIC are illegal, then is it sedition? Yes or no
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
5715 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:35 am to
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Posse Comitatus Act


Applies to the Army. Not the National Gaurd
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:35 am to
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Its cute enough to play these little semantics games


Its not semantics. Trump flat out iled to you once again.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:36 am to
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The video specifically accuses the president of pitting the military and IC against US citizens

With what language?

Not implication/interpretation. Actual language.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19473 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:36 am to
Correct, illegal. Should be prosecuted.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47573 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:36 am to
Thanks for ignoring my entire post. Now I know you arent serious
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:36 am to
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They are ginning up sedition....which is illegal, oh great one.


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How can following the law ever be sedition?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98033 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:36 am to
Another Dem and twin tard of sfp defending Ds
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3996 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:37 am to
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what is the point of the message?

The point of the message is to be on the look out for illegal orders. There is nothing illegal about warning service members to be wary of illegal orders.

There can be absolutely nothing wrong with imploring the military to continue to defend the Constitution. I don't know why you're pretending otherwise, except to troll.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:38 am to
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Applies to the Army. Not the National Gaurd

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President Donald Trump federalized the California National Guard on June 7 and sent troops to Los Angeles to address what he has described as a city “under siege” by protesters opposed to his immigration policy.


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When the National Guard is federalized, it comes under the jurisdiction of the Posse Comitatus Act,


Say what again?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476637 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:38 am to
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There is nothing illegal about warning service members to be wary of illegal orders.

There can be absolutely nothing wrong with imploring the military to continue to defend the Constitution. I don't know why you're pretending otherwise, except to troll.


It's not that complicated.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:39 am to
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Thanks for ignoring my entire post


Just more justification for believing Trumps lie
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19473 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:40 am to
They are claiming Trump gave illegal orders. Name them.

It is illegal to foment sedition, which this is.

You know this, yet you choose to be contrarian.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:40 am to
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The point of the message is to be on the look out for illegal orders. There is nothing illegal about warning service members to be wary of illegal orders.


Which was made clear in the video none of them watched.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 11/20/25 at 10:40 am to
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They are claiming Trump gave illegal orders.


Link?
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