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didn't the DOJ just commit sedition by saying they won't uphold SCOTUS ruling?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:34 am
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:34 am
i'm confused why this is ok.This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 11:53 am
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:36 am to CAD703X
Nothing new. The gov't has been acting outside of the law ever since Brandon took office.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:39 am to CAD703X
Why would the DOJ need to uphold anything here? The states will be policing this.
SCOTUS literally took this out of the DOJ's hands.
SCOTUS literally took this out of the DOJ's hands.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:41 am to imjustafatkid
My thought is that the DOJ will try to claim civil rights violations by not allowing abortions.
Problem is that this shite just goes straight to court. And who controls the interpretation of that? A 6-3 majority who just voted on the original case.
Problem is that this shite just goes straight to court. And who controls the interpretation of that? A 6-3 majority who just voted on the original case.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:41 am to imjustafatkid
What could they do? Pretty sure they're basically cut out of it now.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:41 am to imjustafatkid
WI's dem gov and dem AG have said they will not enforce the abortion law that is on the books and now in effect.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:42 am to CAD703X
Who said that?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:42 am to CAD703X
By definition, no
quote:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:43 am to imjustafatkid
quote:i'm talking about the gun ruling from earlier this week; not RvW.
Why would the DOJ need to uphold anything here? The states will be policing this.
SCOTUS literally took this out of the DOJ's hands.
quote:
Biden DOJ Releases Bizarre Statement in Response to SCOTUS Opinion
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“We respectfully disagree with the Court’s conclusion that the Second Amendment forbids New York’s reasonable requirement that individuals seeking to carry a concealed handgun must show that they need to do so for self-defense. The Department of Justice remains committed to saving innocent lives by enforcing and defending federal firearms laws, partnering with state, local and tribal authorities and using all legally available tools to tackle the epidemic of gun violence plaguing our communities," DOJ Spokesperson Dena Iverson released in a statement.
in other words, we aren't going to enforce the ruling.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 10:44 am
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:44 am to CAD703X
Do the feds inforce NY gun laws? Wouldn’t that still be the state/local govenrment
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:45 am to SammyTiger
quote:not if the person crossed state lines i assume
Do the feds inforce NY gun laws? Wouldn’t that still be the state/local govenrment
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:51 am to CAD703X
Treason - no.
Sedition...
Sedition...
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:54 am to CAD703X
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in other words, we aren't going to enforce the ruling.
I'm still not sure how that could possibly work. New York's law is overturned. The DOJ doesn't have to be involved at all. If someone is denied a permit for self defense reasons, then that person can simply sue them to force compliance.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:57 am to CAD703X
quote:
The Department of Justice remains committed to saving innocent lives by enforcing and defending federal firearms laws, partnering with state, local and tribal authorities and using all legally available tools to tackle the epidemic of gun violence plaguing our communities," DOJ Spokesperson Dena Iverson released in a statement.
in other words, we aren't going to enforce the ruling.
Some of y’all need to work on your reading comprehension.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:58 am to CAD703X
That's not what they said.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 10:59 am to imjustafatkid
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The DOJ doesn't have to be involved at all. If someone is denied a permit for self defense reasons, then that person can simply sue them to force compliance.
so if a person from NYC is caught carrying an 'illegal sidearm' due to being denied due to this bullshite law in another state you're saying the DOJ won't prosecute them?
sounds like they're saying they will.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 11:00 am
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:06 am to CAD703X
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quote:
Why would the DOJ need to uphold anything here? The states will be policing this.
SCOTUS literally took this out of the DOJ's hands.
i'm talking about the gun ruling from earlier this week; not RvW.
quote:
Biden DOJ Releases Bizarre Statement in Response to SCOTUS Opinion
quote:
“We respectfully disagree with the Court’s conclusion that the Second Amendment forbids New York’s reasonable requirement that individuals seeking to carry a concealed handgun must show that they need to do so for self-defense. The Department of Justice remains committed to saving innocent lives by enforcing and defending federal firearms laws, partnering with state, local and tribal authorities and using all legally available tools to tackle the epidemic of gun violence plaguing our communities," DOJ Spokesperson Dena Iverson released in a statement.
in other words, we aren't going to enforce the ruling.
Their statement says they don't agree with it not that the are going to uphold the ruling or make new law. Nothing in that statement says that.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:08 am to CAD703X
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the DOJ just commit treason by saying they won't uphold SCOTUS ruling
Link?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:09 am to CAD703X
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didn't the DOJ just commit treason by saying they won't uphold SCOTUS ruling?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 11:11 am to UAinSOUTHAL
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Their statement says they don't agree with it not that the are going to uphold the ruling or make new law. Nothing in that statement says that.
so you're cool with the law enforcement arm of the federal government openly calling out decisions made by the supreme court?
you don't think this will lead this ruling being outright ignored by uppity NY?
why even judicate at all if the enforcement arm of the government says they, as an entity, disagree?
can you cite all the other examples where the DOJ released public statements questioning other SCOTUS rulings?
i'm sure after today you'll have at least one more.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 11:13 am
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