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re: Didn't the courts rule it illegal for Trump to block followers on twitter?

Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:30 am to
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:30 am to
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He has no rights with twitter, private company, can do what they want, don’t like it build your own twitter, build your own servers, yada yada yada


Since there is nothing special about social media software and Trump has had the biggest followings, this could indeed trigger rival companies outside of the clutches of the left leaning big tech tyrants. It should.
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:31 am to
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So if Twitter doesn't want black people using their platform, they can ban black people?

No. Discrimination based on race in places of public accommodation is explicitly prohibited by Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1965.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 8:32 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:32 am to
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Totally agree. It's super shitty and unethical. Just not unconstitutional.

based on the ruling, it is unconstitutional

either Twitter is a public form that loses its private nature once it becomes an avenue for government or it's not

if it's formerly private area that is now a public forum for governmental policy/speech, then the 1A applies

if Twitter remained neutral then it wouldn't have any problems, but once it chooses a side, then it's becoming an actor of the government (b/c the space itself is the government and no longer private). if that behavior involves viewpoint discrimination, then the 1A is triggered
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 8:33 am
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:34 am to
You are wrong.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:35 am to
you have yet to explain why other than making definitive statements
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:35 am to
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does an elected official have to answer the phone every time someone wants to discuss something he said?

No. But he can't turn off the phone based on who is calling.
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:36 am to
I explained yesterday and you failed to respond.
Posted by CaTiger85
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:37 am to
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Is it yesterday again? Do we need to have this conversation about misunderstanding the First Amendment for the umpteenth time?


How about anti trust and 230?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:38 am to
ctrl + c
ctrl + v
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:40 am to
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you can't see in your blocked account but can see when logged off or on another account


So The whole complaint seems based on a falsehood. Wtf?
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:40 am to
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But you missed the orange man bad footnote

Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:41 am to
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How about anti trust and 230?
I'm not sold on 230. I think it is misunderstood by most people. But there is definitely an antitrust argument to be made. And should be made.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 8:43 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:43 am to
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ctrl + c
ctrl + v


Most people don't use these shortcuts. You have to spell it out.
Posted by CaTiger85
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:43 am to
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I'm not sold on 230. I think it is misunderstood by most people. But there is definitely an antitrust argument to be made. And should be made.


I think 230 is an easier case than the anti trust case. Though, the alleged collusion with the other tech giants makes the anti trust case stronger.
Posted by tigerfan 64
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:45 am to
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So if Twitter doesn't want black people using their platform, they can ban black people?

Your premise is accurate in the general concept. To show accuracy in a finite, specific example, replace the descriptor "black" with "Trump supporter" and you are at exactly our space in time.
"I'd love to change the world, but i dont know what to do".
Thanks Alvin.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:46 am to
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Twatter became too large. Monopoly


what does twitter hold a monopoly on? 280 character thoughts?
Posted by Gravitiger
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 8:51 am to
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ctrl + c
ctrl + v

I even explained it again at the bottom of page 1 of this very thread. You conveniently only copied and pasted one piece.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:55 am to
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I even explained it again at the bottom of page 1 of this very thread. You conveniently only copied and pasted one piece.


this one?

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The government can't block your speech in a public forum. A private company can block your speech in a public forum. This is basic con law 101.


the private company is the public forum, in this case. there isn't a tactile forum because this is data being delivered over the air. you can't really separate "the company" from "The forum"

even if it is a tactile example, say it's a movie theater that is private but leased to the government for public usage (which is the precedent that the 2nd circuit relied upon iirc). the movie theater cannot enter into this agreement (and thus, making the theater the public forum) and then ban individual politicians from participating within the theater. that's what Twitter did
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 9:58 am to
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don’t like it build your own twitter, build your own servers, yada yada yada


Build your own internet from scratch to host and market your social media website of you dont like it, Mr butthurt free speech conservative!
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/13/21 at 10:00 am to
"Didn't the courts rule it illegal for Trump to block followers on twitter?"

Too lazy to look it up but I thought the issue was that it was "the government" in the form of Trump's Twitter account, squelching speech (certain comments responding to Trump) based on content. Therefore, 1A problem.

Twitter, a private company, limiting speech =/= 1A problem, though there could be other legal concerns.
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