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Did undercover FBI agent posing as militia set up Michigan Gov. kidnapping plot?
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:39 am
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:39 am
quote:Who is to say that the embedded FBI agent didn't tape out of context statements?
Detroit Free Pressquote:
Graham was grilling FBI special agent Richard Trask about his testimony that at least 13 self-described militia members plotted to kidnap Whitmer from her vacation home and do one of two things: either take her on a boat in the middle of Lake Michigan and leave her there, or, take her to Wisconsin and try her for treason.
Graham asked agent Trask how the suspects planned to get Whitmer to Wisconsin.quote:
All five defendants appeared in U.S. District Court in Grand Rapids, where the government disclosed shocking new allegations in the case, including: Fox wanted to take Whitmer out on a boat and leave her in Lake Michigan; the group talked about also kidnapping Virginia's governor; and one suspect — a decorated Marine — allegedly asked his cohorts if they were interested in killing a cop in Maine for one of his friends.
Defense lawyers, meanwhile, argued that the government has only produced snippets of conversations in the case and that there is no evidence that the accused had any real plan to kidnap Whitmer. They said that it remains to be seen what roles the undercover informants and FBI agents played in the case, and whether they pushed the others into carrying out the plan, which in the end was foiled when FBI agents arrested five men during a setup on Oct. 7.
According to the FBI, the defendants thought they were going to buy explosives and tactical gear from an associate, but FBI agents were there instead.quote:
Springstead also said the use of an informant in the investigation to thwart the plot raises questions. Feds said an informant wore wires to meetings to record the men charged and collect information on the kidnapping plan.
“(I)t’s become an issue in certain cases where the informant pushes some of the information, and the court and the government and the defense attorneys have to be leery of that,” Springstead told reporters. “Because their job is not to assess what the government informant wants them to do, it’s to assess the accused’s intent and what they actually planned on doing.”
It sounds like he gave them the idea to take the Governor to the middle of a lake on a boat and leave her there, or take her in for treason.
This happens weeks after FBI Dir. Wray says militia white nationalists are the biggest threat to our country.
The FBI agent embedded within the miltia group then calls the media and claims he saved the day. Then the media reports this full of holes story and tries to pin Trump to it...
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:40 am to cajunangelle
I mean that’s basically the FBI’s MO in these stings so yes this is likely how it went down
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:42 am to jamboybarry
Wasn't there an FBI agent years ago (Dubya was POTUS) that gave a mideastern man bomb materials then arrested him and said he saved the day?
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:42 am to boomtown143
The plot was masterminded by a guy living in the basement of a vacuum cleaner repair shop. How did this Trump Patriot not see the FBI coming?
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:43 am to cajunangelle
well this isn't a shocker and it is not the first time the FBI has done this.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:44 am to cajunangelle
quote:
Wasn't there an FBI agent years ago (Dubya was POTUS) that gave a mideastern man bomb materials then arrested him and said he saved the day?
i think that happened multiple times, actually
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:44 am to cajunangelle
Just bc the FBI agent "pushed" for them to do some dumbass shite doesn't mean they have to do dumbass stuff
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:51 am to jamboybarry
quote:
mean that’s basically the FBI’s MO in these stings so yes this is likely how it went down
this. the fbi really is the one who makes the entire plan. pushes, and radicalizes people to follow along with it, and then arrests them. when im reality they probably never had the balls to do it.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:53 am to boomtown143
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wouldn't doubt it
Just 2 short years ago I would have said this was silly. I would have said the FBI is the worlds most reputable and best law enforcement agency. But after the last two years and finding out what we know now, I would say there is probably no reason to doubt this is what happened. I would also say it was probably for political reasons to hurt Trump. This basically smacks as the FBI arranging an attack, then breaking it up and claiming it was a militia group.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 8:55 am to cajunangelle
Yes, the FBI runs false flag ops in our country. Just like how all those mass school shooters had previously been under FBI surveillance.
It's disgusting and abhorrent, but it's the truth.
It's disgusting and abhorrent, but it's the truth.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:01 am to Wtodd
but what is it that they did?
I'll bet you dollars to donuts the embedded FBI agent said, 'hey what about taking the Governor in a boat in the middle of a great lake and leaving her there?'
Muhahahahahahwahhah...
Got em' they wanted to conspire.
I'll bet you dollars to donuts the embedded FBI agent said, 'hey what about taking the Governor in a boat in the middle of a great lake and leaving her there?'
Muhahahahahahwahhah...
Got em' they wanted to conspire.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 9:02 am
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:17 am to cajunangelle
The FBInis a fricking joke and should not be taken seriously by any citizen in this nation!
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:33 am to cajunangelle
Very unshocking behavior by the FBI
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:45 am to Wtodd
quote:
Just bc the FBI agent "pushed" for them to do some dumbass shite doesn't mean they have to do dumbass stuff
They didn't "do" anything it was a plot that was cooked up by the FBI.
I figured this was what happened as soon as I heard the news of this "plot". I have no doubt it was set up to be an election gotcha.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 9:48 am to cajunangelle
quote:That's not how you spell entrapment.
Wasn't there an FBI agent years ago (Dubya was POTUS) that gave a mideastern man bomb materials then arrested him and said he saved the day
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:06 am to cajunangelle
You can thank barry, comey, brennan, et al for placing these agencies reputations where they are now. Once respected and now are no better than cnn. Thanks barry for "fundamentally transforming America" into a 3rd world country, like where you were originally from
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:21 am to offshoretrash
quote:
They didn't "do" anything it was a plot that was cooked up by the FBI.
This is more than likely correct.....I don't trust the FBI as far as I can throw my truck.
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