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re: Did this ex-gay fellow's genetics change? or is there another explanation?
Posted on 12/14/13 at 9:40 pm to Buddy Garrity
Posted on 12/14/13 at 9:40 pm to Buddy Garrity
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sad that he quit doing something he likes
Did you read the article or any of the responses in this tread? The guy said:
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debilitating bout with intestinal cramps caused by the upset stomach-inducing behaviors I’d been engaged in.”
Sounds like he made a conscious choice to stop his homosexual behavior because he felt it was creating a life-threatening condition.
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Posted on 12/14/13 at 9:48 pm to KeyserSoze999
Oh wow, one month of being married and he's saying he's conquered it? Lets come back to this guy in 10 years, and I'd say the chances are that he's relapsed at least once or twice.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 9:54 pm to OMLandshark
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Oh wow, one month of being married and he's saying he's conquered it? Lets come back to this guy in 10 years, and I'd say the chances are that he's relapsed at least once or twice.
There was a guy in my church parish who was gay. He had been since he was a teenager. But then he said he found God and a wife. While he admits he's still attracted to men, there is a big difference between having an urge and acting on that urge. He's been happily married for 30 years and hasn't had a relapse in that time period.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 10:01 pm to RollTide1987
This thread is like dejavu all over again. 
Got some haters tho
Got some haters tho
Posted on 12/14/13 at 10:11 pm to Buddy Garrity
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sad that he quit doing something he likes because something that doesn't exist frowns upon it
Perhaps, LIKE I SAID, he quit doing something he didn't enjoy, because he tried vagina and realized that it's awesome.
Vagina> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Penis
Sorry you mad
Posted on 12/14/13 at 10:11 pm to Joshjrn
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The real agony would be religious conservatives being tempted to abort their gay fetus. Can you imagine, bringing a child into the world knowing that, odds are, they will spend eternity tortured by hell fire after spending their lives as an utter affront to god, slapping him in the face with every penis they put in their mouths?
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:03 pm to Buddy Garrity
Please prove that he does not exist.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:05 pm to darkhorse
I also ask again..... show me the gay gene..
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:07 pm to darkhorse
quote:the burden of proof isn't on me
Please prove that he does not exist.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:13 pm to Buddy Garrity
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the burden of proof isn't on me
Actually it is, since you made the claim he doesn't exist. You didn't say you don't believe he exists.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:15 pm to darkhorse
Show me the intelligence gene.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:17 pm to KeyserSoze999
I commend this guy trying to live the lifestyle that he thinks is right but he's kidding himself if he thinks he can just become straight as an arrow.
He's going to prolapse sooner or later.
He's going to prolapse sooner or later.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:19 pm to Buddy Garrity
You made the claim.... so disprove him.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:22 pm to Joshjrn
You cant, and thats why you are trying to answer by asking a question.
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:29 pm to darkhorse
All of the evidence that we have points to sexual orientation being a genetic trait, just like intelligence. The fact that we can't point to a specific gene for either of them doesn't change the fact that a genetic cause is the most likely scenario.
Would it bother you to find out that your loving god created someone who has to deny themselves sexual fulfillment or face eternal damnation?
Would it bother you to find out that your loving god created someone who has to deny themselves sexual fulfillment or face eternal damnation?
This post was edited on 12/14/13 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 12/14/13 at 11:32 pm to Joshjrn
Actually, there is no evidence what so ever. I have not involved God in this either, so no need in addressing that.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:20 am to Joshjrn
Scientists last year came to the conclusion that homosexuality wasn't a genetic trait. However...they believe it to be biological in nature.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 12:26 am to RollTide1987
A scientific study came to that conclusion...not all scientists...just to be clear....and that conclusion wasn't a final say...they provided only that their evidence suggested an epigenetic link...sounds plausible and still obviates choice in the matter.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 6:37 am to darkhorse
quote:Actually neither statement is true.quote:Actually, there is no evidence what so ever.
All of the evidence that we have points to sexual orientation being a genetic trait, just like intelligence. The fact that we can't point to a specific gene for either of them doesn't change the fact that a genetic cause is the most likely scenario.
There is evidence of genetic influence.
However, that influence is not 100% outcome determinative.
In isolated monozygotic twin studies strict homosexual concordance runs 300% - 1700% of population averages. Further, incomplete manifestation or expressed bisexuality, is not fully explored in many of these instances. Most studies of male homosexuality seem suggestive of either genetic contribution, (though not of genetic control), or epigenetic factors.
In Al Gore lingo, the science is not settled.
Posted on 12/15/13 at 8:04 am to Sentrius
Maybe maybe not. No need to wish relapse onto someone so that our own suspicions can be confirmed. I struggle with a weed and tittie addiction myself, yes its been tough going cold turkey, but i'd like to think I can head in the right direction without people hoping I fail.
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