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re: Did the FBI ever confirm that the Russians hacked the DNC?

Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by McChowder
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:50 pm to
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I have NEVER heard of the FBI not taking physical custody of computer in a hacking case. EVER. 

This is how those things are typically handled. The FBI takes physical custody of the server and then mirrors the hard drive(s) and puts the original server in storage and runs a forensic analysis on the copy. Because having physical custody of the unmanipulated original hard drive is THAT important when making a case. 

That and the all important "chain of custody" that must be established for any evidence in a criminal investigation to proceed to trial.

Think about it. The FBI investigated a crime and chose to proceed in such a way that would be inadmissible.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:50 pm to
Yet they spied with hard/soft assets on Trump campaign, should make every American pissed....
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:50 pm to
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Did the FBI ever confirm that the Russians hacked the DNC?


I imagine they had it confirmed by the fall of 2015 *when the FBI told the DNC they were being hacked*.

Golly gee how did the FBI know about it before the DNC and without the benefit of having physical access to Muh Server?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 12:58 pm to
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Golly gee how did the FBI know about it before the DNC and without the benefit of having physical access to Muh Server?

So they knew about a hacking but maybe not all hacking on that server, which is fricking why your retarded argument is retarded.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:03 pm to
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"yes, maybe"
Good enough for me. The entire Trump campaign is guilty.














Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:04 pm to
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So they knew about a hacking but maybe not all hacking on that server, which is fricking why your retarded argument is retarded.


They knew about APT 29 at that time. APT 28 didn’t gain access until March 2016.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:07 pm to
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They knew about APT 29 at that time. APT 28 didn’t gain access until March 2016.

So.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118999 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:12 pm to
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Negative. There was no mention of emails at all per Downer. Someone in the FBI purposely leaked false info to the press about that which seems to be a reoccurring theme.



Thanks for mentioning this. This is why I said, "(BTW, Andrew Downer is now denying this)" in my OP.

I was just going with the original FBI claim which is now apparently a big lie.
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
14599 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:19 pm to
Nope, they just took the DNC's and Crowdstrike's word for it. Computers were not made available to FBI for examination.

This post was edited on 6/6/18 at 1:20 pm
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1610 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:19 pm to
And the dnc servers were conveniently hacked just a day or two AFTER Mike Rogers put a stop to the NSA database “about queries” that were being illegally used by the fbi.

Sounds suspiciously like they lost their access to the info they’d been illegally obtaining for months, so they planted a “server hack” theory in order to kickstart an investigation that would allow them to obtain the FISA warrants and continue on with their spying....
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118999 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:20 pm to
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Nope, they just took the DNC's and Crowd Strike's word for it. Computers were not made available to FBI for examination.





And we are here millions and millions of dollars later because the FBI will not verify the DNC hack.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:25 pm to
Do you purposely keep yourself in ignorance in order to push your politics?
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
14599 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:26 pm to
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There was no mention of emails at all per Downer.


Downer has clarified that (1) they weren't drunk but were having their discussion over drinks and (2) it was "dirt", not e-mails that were mentioned.

Conflicts NY Times original reporting from an anonymous source.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64736 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:29 pm to
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And we are here because the FBI trust Hillary IT contractor Crowdstrike.


And is sworn into fact and promoted by CNN and all the rest.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:30 pm to
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Do you purposely keep yourself in ignorance in order to push your politics?


You and your ilk are the ones in willful ignorance. Can you name one time that the FBI just took someone's word for evidence, other than in this case?

Of course you can't. Imagine if you were accused of rape and the woman told police, I had a rape kit done and this report says it was Decatur and the police just looked at that report and said "yep we agree Decatur is the rapist" you would be , rightfully, livid. And more importantly that evidence would ever see the inside of a court room. And THIS is why no one will EVER be charged with hacking that server, because A) the FBI has no idea who, if anyone , hacked that server, AND they couldn't prove it even if they did. Because they did not examine the server themselves.

Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:32 pm to
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it was "dirt"


Any proof of dirt on Clintons gets one two bullets to the back of the head suicided.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:32 pm to
Blah blah ATP28 blah blah Crowdstrike blah blah signed Recatur.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18017 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:34 pm to
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That count Wasserman Schulz refused to cooperate and hand over information and servers. The FBI believes the DNC was hacked by foreign operatives but lacked cooperation by the DNC to figure out who.
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So the FBI decided to spy on the Trump campaign....
Makes perfect sense.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:46 pm to
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because A) the FBI has no idea who, if anyone , hacked that server, AND they couldn't prove it even if they did. Because they did not examine the server themselves.


Yet in the fall of 2015 the FBI contacted the DNC and told them that they were being hacked by “The Dukes” aka APT 29. They made this determination without having physical access to DNC servers and before the DNC had any clue they had been hacked.

How do you think the FBI was able to do that?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64736 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:48 pm to
The FBI asked for the severs and were told NO.
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