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re: Did New York do a better job during COVID than Florida?
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:12 am to shel311
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:12 am to shel311
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worship Trump
Lazy question doesn't deserve a straight answer. In fact you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of.
I pay attention to posters such as yourself and what you negatively respond to and what you generally support. It's pretty easy to surmise the political leaning you all lean to.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:13 am to VolcanicTiger
Just like to take this opportunity to remind everyone Trump has been very proud of his clot shot.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:13 am to NDIrish88
I voted for Trump and would again but he needs to be attacking the Democrats and not any Republicans.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:14 am to VolcanicTiger
quote:No one is pretending. They are irrelevant. Population differences matter.
Oh so now we're pretending total cases is irrelevant
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:15 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Man look. I supported Trump twice.
The past few years I have hoped he would not run because I have become increasingly disenchanted with his childish antics, and I do not want another damn 80 year old, not to mention one that just lost to a dementia patient.
But any Conservative that can support him after months of attacking Desantis, the best conservative governor in America, from the LEFT...I don't know what to tell you.
People need to get past 2016. Its 2023. Look at Trump NOW.
The past few years I have hoped he would not run because I have become increasingly disenchanted with his childish antics, and I do not want another damn 80 year old, not to mention one that just lost to a dementia patient.
But any Conservative that can support him after months of attacking Desantis, the best conservative governor in America, from the LEFT...I don't know what to tell you.
People need to get past 2016. Its 2023. Look at Trump NOW.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:15 am to NDIrish88
as a FL resident, this is absolutely pathetic. Trump needs to sit down.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:16 am to VolcanicTiger
quote:
Oh so now we're pretending total cases is irrelevant
This board in a vast majority have always considered the data of total cases to be irrelevant and not to be trusted from early on.
Now, meaning 2020?
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 10:21 am
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:19 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
Man look. I supported Trump twice.
The past few years I have hoped he would not run because I have become increasingly disenchanted with his childish antics, and I do not want another damn 80 year old, not to mention one that just lost to a dementia patient.
But any Conservative that can support him after months of attacking Desantis, the best conservative governor in America, from the LEFT...I don't know what to tell you.
People need to get past 2016. Its 2023. Look at Trump NOW.
This
I feel like we're being held hostage at this point.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:19 am to VolcanicTiger
quote:
Oh so now we're pretending total cases is irrelevant
Pretending? Cases fluctuated with testing, hospitalizations and deaths were always more important.
Anyone with a brain was pointing this out a month into the pandemic lockdown. Not sure what rock you’ve been under. But please, continue being irrelevant as you discuss irrelevant information.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:20 am to Fun Bunch
You do not have to explain where you're coming from, I get and understand it. I just move slower on what I do. I didn't come to support Trump till late in 2016.
I see the issues, I am weighing everything. I am not blind to his weaknesses and issues. There is no one yet in the race that I can support. Until then, I will continue to support Trump and call him out when needed.
I see the issues, I am weighing everything. I am not blind to his weaknesses and issues. There is no one yet in the race that I can support. Until then, I will continue to support Trump and call him out when needed.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:23 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
People need to get past 2016. Its 2023. Look at Trump NOW
Look at Trump’s debate vs Hillary in comparison to his first debate against Biden. He drastically lost his sharp edge.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:24 am to Jon Ham
He did better in subsequent debates, but it was VERY clear he was not the same as he was in 2016.
In 2016 he was pretty sharp and had great comebacks.
Dementia Patient owned him in the 1st debate which was shocking.
In 2016 he was pretty sharp and had great comebacks.
Dementia Patient owned him in the 1st debate which was shocking.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:26 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:
It's pretty easy to surmise the political leaning you all lean to.
What are your thoughts on the political leaning of someone who's said the following:
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That is why I have called for red flag laws, also known as extreme risk protection orders.
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Although the Obama administration repeatedly concluded that particular bump stock type devices were lawful to purchase and possess, I sought further clarification of the law restricting fully automatic machine guns.
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Bump stocks, we are writing that out. I am writing that out. I don’t care if Congress does it or not, I’m writing it out myself.
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I like taking guns away early. Take the guns first, go through due process second.
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We have tremendous support for really common-sense, sensible, important background checks.
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What are we going to do about assault rifles?
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Well, it’s the military weapons.
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It doesn't make sense that I have to wait till I'm 21 to get a handgun but I can get this [AR-15].
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:26 am to VolcanicTiger
quote:Now? Or since mid year 2020?
Oh so now we're pretending total cases is irrelevant, and using the "everyone realized" persuasion technique to make it sound legitimate.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:27 am to Fun Bunch
quote:It's like all these talking points have completely changed and magically didn't happen because those are the hoops you have to jump through to argue in support of the Trump hot take from the OP. And the sheep will blindly follow Trump and pretend all that stuff we all saw happened...just never happened.
Now?
This board has had a consensus that total cases was bullshite for a variety of reasons since the Summer of 2020. That isn't new.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:30 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:Thanks for confirming that you have no actual idea if that poster voted for Biden, but you're one of those political posters who doesn't have an original thought so anyone that doesn't repeat all the RIght's talking points, you go with the very unoriginal "you voted for Biden" response.
Lazy question doesn't deserve a straight answer. In fact you are doing exactly what you are accusing me of.
You can argue, whine cry, whatever you want...none of it will change that this is exactly what happened here unless you can prove or even just honestly tell me that that poster did indeed say he voted for Biden.
quote:I've never voted Democrat once in my entire life, so congrats on being wrong.
I pay attention to posters such as yourself and what you negatively respond to and what you generally support. It's pretty easy to surmise the political leaning you all lean to.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:31 am to Fun Bunch
Florida had more cases, absolutely, ~800k more. Wanna know how many more deaths Florida had than New York? 7,032. With a significantly more elderly population and with significantly more freedom since the early days of COVID. That is a 1.16% death rate for FL and a 1.18% for NY. Keep defending Trump and his leftist talking points. Which one do you like more? The attacks against Ron that he stole from Gavin Newsome or this one?
FL - 87,141
NY - 80,109
FL - 87,141
NY - 80,109
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 10:32 am
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:31 am to saint tiger225
quote:And took credit for and pro Trump bros gave him all the credit for so quickly getting us that vaccine that is KILLING EVERYONE!!
Just like to take this opportunity to remind everyone Trump has been very proud of his clot shot.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:32 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Trump is wrong on some issues as are all politicians.
Did you think you were going to get a gotcha from this? I am aware of the things we disagree on. As soon as someone else declares for the presidency I can get behind, I will.
Did you think you were going to get a gotcha from this? I am aware of the things we disagree on. As soon as someone else declares for the presidency I can get behind, I will.
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:35 am to shel311
quote:
don't think anyone said FL had less of an issue
Compared to NY?
Nah, the vast majority on this board would have told you at any point in time before these last few months where Trump vs Desantis became a thing that NY handled Covid terribly and Desantis did one of the better jobs
I think a lot of people argued that the numbers were fudged ( I mean... you had public health official in Orange county publicly stating that a motorcyclist that was hit by a car and immediately was killed ..and listed as a covid death ...because it couldn't be rules out) but Florida had covid cases ...on par with every one but we got to live lives (and tried to protect the high percentage of elderly that the state has)
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