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re: DHS tells Obama judge to frick off. "You don't dictate foreign policy"

Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23794 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:28 pm to
These people hate Trump more than they love the country.

None of them should be in any position of power or authority
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75825 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:30 pm to
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Losing an election suspends your ideas of what our foreign policy should be.


Ok, government actions still have to be lawful.

saying over and over again you can’t dictate foreign policy doesn’t change the fact that the executive branch can’t violate the law

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Otherwise, you're just bitching because you're pedophile buddies are no longer able to vote in state elections.


No it’s is generally concerning when the executive branch operates outside the law as established by the legislative branch and court orders issued by the judicial branch.

that’s a pretty big issue.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7808 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:30 pm to
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The idea that judges don’t have authority over cases being heard in their jurisdiction is asinine.


except where Powers of Separation are involved .....

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75825 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:32 pm to
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except where Powers of Separation are involved .....


How do you think the separation of powers is enforced?

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55490 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:33 pm to
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Ok, government actions still have to be lawful.


Says the guy that defended every covid measure.

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saying over and over again you can’t dictate foreign policy doesn’t change the fact that the executive branch can’t violate the law



And saying over and over again "orange man bad thus he violated the law" doesn't make it true even if you are a judge. This only ends bad for you and you know it. Again, win an election loser.

quote:

No it’s is generally concerning when the executive branch operates outside the law


It hasn't, and you haven't proved that it has.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
5315 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:34 pm to
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Ok, government actions still have to be lawful.

saying over and over again you can’t dictate foreign policy doesn’t change the fact that the executive branch can’t violate the law


And once again SCOTUS has been clear on this for a very long time.

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No it’s is generally concerning when the executive branch operates outside the law as established by the legislative branch and court orders issued by the judicial branch.



The Constitution gave this power to the President. Not congress. He's not operating outside the laws.

Period.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75825 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:35 pm to
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And saying over and over again "orange man bad thus he violated the law" doesn't make it true even if you are a judge. This only ends bad for you and you know it. Again, win an election loser.


if only there was a way to challenge what a district court judge says:

an appeal to a higher court of something.

Disobeying an injunction issued by a judge with proper jurisdiction is in and of itself unlawful.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75825 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:35 pm to
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The Constitution gave this power to the President. Not congress. He's not operating outside the laws.


Where?

which line says the president can do whatever he wants if he calls it foreign policy?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55490 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:36 pm to
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if only there was a way to challenge what a district court judge says:

an appeal to a higher court of something.

Disobeying an injunction issued by a judge with proper jurisdiction is in and of itself unlawful.


Then why isnt' anyone in prison for "being unlawful"?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31192 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:37 pm to
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It's about fricking time they told these judges to pound sand. Instead they keep playing their game and filing paperwork etc

Tell them frick off, and continue doing the shite that's legal
These judges are throwing up roadblocks left & right to slow play the process. They look like anti-American fools defending and supporting illegal immigrants.

Democrats are a petty, whiney, irrational and constipated bunch with those furrowed brows & angry facial features.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75825 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:37 pm to
1. being unlawful doesn’t always mean being criminal. that’s what civil court is about

2. ThrnJudicial Branch is pretty warty about holding other government official in contempt of court, but legally they can.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2939 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:38 pm to
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Thongxay Nilakout, a Laos citizen who was convicted of first-degree murder and robbery and was sentenced to life behind bars, is also on the flight. He was arrested in January by ICE.

Mexican citizen Jesus Munoz-Gutierrez is convicted of second-degree murder, and was taken into ICE custody earlier this month.

Dian Peter Domach of South Sudan is convicted of a DUI, "possession of burglar’s tools and possession of defaced firearm; sentenced to 18 months confinement" and "robbery and possession of a firearm; sentenced to 8 years confinement." He was arrested by ICE earlier this month.

Two Burmese citizens, Kyaw Mya and Nyo Myint, are also headed to the African nation on the flight. Mya is convicted of "Lascivious Acts with a Child-Victim less than 12 years of age." He was sentenced to 10 years behind bars, but he was paroled after four years. Myint is convicted of "first-degree sexual assault involving a victim mentally and physically incapable of resisting" and faced 12 years behind bars. He was also charged with "aggravated assault-nonfamily strongarm." Both were arrested by ICE in February.

Vietnamese citizen Tuan Thanh Phan, a citizen of Vietnam, is convicted of "first-degree murder and second-degree assault."

DHS officials noted at Wednesday's briefing that the home countries of each of the illegal immigrants refused to take them back to their home soil.




These are all convicted criminals whose home countries refused to accept them back. Except Domach, he is from South Sudan and was returned to his home country. You would think people would be more grateful for a free flight home.

Sorry, the US is done being a dumping ground for the trash of the rest of the world. These countries had an opportunity to accept their criminals back and they refused. The people crying about this want to act like that makes them our permanent problem and it does not.

You ain't got to go home but you can't stay here.
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
8207 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:38 pm to
Dems are so "get Trump" that they find themselves dying on the hills of the Sudanese illegal alien rapist and defending land confiscation and death threats in S. Africa.


Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55490 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:38 pm to
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Where?

which line says the president can do whatever he wants if he calls it foreign policy?


This one, jackass.

quote:

8 U.S. Code § 1227 - Deportable aliens


quote:

(a)Classes of deportable aliens
Any alien (including an alien crewman) in and admitted to the United States shall, upon the order of the Attorney General, be removed if the alien is within one or more of the following classes of deportable aliens:
(1)Inadmissible at time of entry or of adjustment of status or violates status
(A)Inadmissible aliens
Any alien who at the time of entry or adjustment of status was within one or more of the classes of aliens inadmissible by the law existing at such time is deportable.

(B)Present in violation of law
Any alien who is present in the United States in violation of this chapter or any other law of the United States, or whose nonimmigrant visa (or other documentation authorizing admission into the United States as a nonimmigrant) has been revoked under section 1201(i) of this title, is deportable.


quote:

(ii)Violators of conditions of entry
Any alien whom the Secretary of Health and Human Services certifies has failed to comply with terms, conditions, and controls that were imposed under section 1182(g) of this title is deportable.


quote:

(A)General crimes
(i)Crimes of moral turpitude
Any alien who—
(I)is convicted of a crime involving moral turpitude committed within five years (or 10 years in the case of an alien provided lawful permanent resident status under section 1255(j) of this title) after the date of admission, and
(II)is convicted of a crime for which a sentence of one year or longer may be imposed,
is deportable.


LINK

Come on SammyTiger. Let's play lawyer.
This post was edited on 5/21/25 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43877 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:39 pm to
IWHI
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
13307 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

“We conducted a deportation flight from Texas to remove some of the most barbaric, violent individuals illegally in the United States.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
55490 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:41 pm to
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(ii)Multiple criminal convictions
Any alien who at any time after admission is convicted of two or more crimes involving moral turpitude, not arising out of a single scheme of criminal misconduct, regardless of whether confined therefor and regardless of whether the convictions were in a single trial, is deportable.

(iii)Aggravated felony
Any alien who is convicted of an aggravated felony at any time after admission is deportable.


quote:

(B)Controlled substances
(i)Conviction
Any alien who at any time after admission has been convicted of a violation of (or a conspiracy or attempt to violate) any law or regulation of a State, the United States, or a foreign country relating to a controlled substance (as defined in section 802 of title 21), other than a single offense involving possession for one’s own use of 30 grams or less of marijuana, is deportable.

(ii)Drug abusers and addicts
Any alien who is, or at any time after admission has been, a drug abuser or addict is deportable.

(C)Certain firearm offenses
Any alien who at any time after admission is convicted under any law of purchasing, selling, offering for sale, exchanging, using, owning, possessing, or carrying, or of attempting or conspiring to purchase, sell, offer for sale, exchange, use, own, possess, or carry, any weapon, part, or accessory which is a firearm or destructive device (as defined in section 921(a) of title 18) in violation of any law is deportable.

(D)Miscellaneous crimes
Any alien who at any time has been convicted (the judgment on such conviction becoming final) of, or has been so convicted of a conspiracy or attempt to violate—
(i)any offense under chapter 37 (relating to espionage), chapter 105 (relating to sabotage), or chapter 115 (relating to treason and sedition) of title 18 for which a term of imprisonment of five or more years may be imposed;
(ii)any offense under section 871 or 960 of title 18;
(iii)a violation of any provision of the Military Selective Service Act (50 U.S.C. App. 451 et seq.) [now 50 U.S.C. 3801 et seq.] or the Trading With the Enemy Act (50 U.S.C. App. 1 et seq.) [now 50 U.S.C. 4301 et seq.]; or
(iv)a violation of section 1185 or 1328 of this title,
is deportable.



and here, Sammy. This is the one you think is unfair

quote:

(E)Crimes of domestic violence, stalking, or violation of protection order, crimes against children and
(i)Domestic violence, stalking, and child abuse
Any alien who at any time after admission is convicted of a crime of domestic violence, a crime of stalking, or a crime of child abuse, child neglect, or child abandonment is deportable. For purposes of this clause, the term “crime of domestic violence” means any crime of violence (as defined in section 16 of title 18) against a person committed by a current or former spouse of the person, by an individual with whom the person shares a child in common, by an individual who is cohabiting with or has cohabited with the person as a spouse, by an individual similarly situated to a spouse of the person under the domestic or family violence laws of the jurisdiction where the offense occurs, or by any other individual against a person who is protected from that individual’s acts under the domestic or family violence laws of the United States or any State, Indian tribal government, or unit of local government.


Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2939 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:42 pm to
And the other two:
quote:

Cuban citizen Enrique Arias-Hierro was arrested by ICE on May 2. He has prior convictions for homicide, armed robbery, false impersonation of an official, kidnapping, and strong-arm robbery.

Another Cuban citizen, Jose Manuel Rodriguez-Quinones, was taken into custody by ICE on April 30. His convictions include first-degree murder with a weapon, battery, larceny, as well as possession and trafficking of cocaine.


They are convicted criminals. Their countries don't want them and neither do we.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
3214 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:44 pm to
STFU nerd.
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4149 posts
Posted on 5/21/25 at 12:44 pm to
Which part of " illegal, law-breaking, felonious, not U.S. citizen" do you not get? If you came in illegally, you have ZERO rights under our constitution, and crossed an international border which makes it a federal felony. As all of the great law-abiding Dems said, " no-one is above the law". And yes, this includes all of the ignorant jackass Dems..................and their muchacho followers.
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