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re: DeSantis leads the pack with 35 percent
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:05 pm to David_DJS
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:05 pm to David_DJS
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If Trump can convince his conservative skeptics that he'll stand up to the establishment, everyone will pile onto the bandwagon and there's no need for RDS to run right now.
Thew same guy who is kissing and making nice with McCarthy, Graham, and McDaniel?
Trump wants to be establishment
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:10 pm to Shrimp Boat Captain
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This post was edited on 3/15/23 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:11 pm to GumboPot
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Would be foolish for DeSantis to run in ‘24 when ‘28 is so easy for him.
Agreed. ‘24 is a meatgrinder for Ron and it will absolutely sully him to the Trump base, even if he does eventually get the nomination.
Why risk it?
If he gets on the Trump train, it helps everyone exponentially as well as assures him Trump’s still MASSIVE influence in 2028.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:13 pm to Jjdoc
16% is very reasonable for DeSantis, this will be encouraging for him
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:17 pm to Giantkiller
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If he gets on the Trump train, it helps everyone exponentially as well as assures him Trump’s still MASSIVE influence in 2028.
Would you like to comment on what Trump’s handpicked VP (i.e. his successor) would have to say about that?
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:21 pm to Giantkiller
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If he gets on the Trump train, it helps everyone exponentially as well as assures him Trump’s still MASSIVE influence in 2028.
If he's alive in '28, I don't think Trump will have much influence at all. He will have lost the nomination in '24 or be a 2 time loser to Biden at that point
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:27 pm to jlnoles79
Just because you want this to happen, doesn’t mean it will happen
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:28 pm to lsuguy84
That’s the thing. He doesn’t want that to happen.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:28 pm to Esquire
I had no idea Keyes was Obama.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:30 pm to roadGator
We can argue all night but it’s still wishcasting. I’m not entirely sure Trump has lost a lot of the support he had in 2020. 74 million votes didn’t just disappear, and those numbers may be stronger with everything that has transpired since then.
This post was edited on 2/25/23 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:37 pm to lsuguy84
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We can argue all night but it’s still wishcasting. I’m not entirely sure Trump has lost a lot of the support he had in 2020. 74 million votes didn’t just disappear, and those numbers may be stronger with everything that has transpired between now and then.
Trump can definitely win in '24. I think DeSantis can, too. To me it's about who would be best at stepping up and leading the Right/Center on some issues that are going to be tough AF to deal with.
The skepticism I have about Trump in this regard is he didn't do this in his first term. Not that he was horrible, but on some absolutely pivotal issues/matters, he failed. Maybe he learns from that failure? Maybe it steels his resolve.
Same sort of thing re: DeSantis - before I'm fully on board with the guy, I have to be confident he's going to shut the bullshite in Ukraine down - and right now, I do not have that confidence.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:39 pm to David_DJS
It’s like you’re in my head 
Honestly, I think Trump’s issues at the end were him being supremely confident that he had 2020 wrapped up and it was gift-wrapped, but that’s a whole different topic.
That’s being said, I’m pretty much aligned where you’re at as well.
Honestly, I think Trump’s issues at the end were him being supremely confident that he had 2020 wrapped up and it was gift-wrapped, but that’s a whole different topic.
That’s being said, I’m pretty much aligned where you’re at as well.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:47 pm to lsuguy84
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Just because you want this to happen, doesn’t mean it will happen
Trump doesn't have a chance in hell of being President again.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 7:48 pm to jlnoles79
Okay, thanks
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:00 pm to Jjdoc
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I had no idea Keyes was Obama.
Polls don’t lie Jjprog
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:03 pm to David_DJS
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Same sort of thing re: DeSantis - before I'm fully on board with the guy, I have to be confident he's going to shut the bullshite in Ukraine down - and right now, I do not have that confidence.
Easier said than done at this point....fricking Biden has got us so damn deep in this mess........I liken it to Nixon winning in 68 and having to deal with the war in Vietnam....Trump or DeSantis is going to have a real problem to figure out. Pulling support will mean the collapse of the country and then what other problems come from that could potentially be worse? It took several more years to extricate ourselves from Vietnam and the country just collapsed anyway.
I really don't know what the the answer is here.....continuing down this path with Ukraine is unsustainable long term.
This post was edited on 2/25/23 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:04 pm to Jjdoc
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Without Trump running.
With Trump ... he trails 16%
My baw…..lol
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:04 pm to Figgy
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Would you like to comment on what Trump’s handpicked VP (i.e. his successor) would have to say about that?
Could be Ron if he plays his cards right.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:11 pm to jlnoles79
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If he's alive in '28, I don't think Trump will have much influence at all. He will have lost the nomination in '24 or be a 2 time loser to Biden at that point
I disagree with this. Even losing in 24, he will command a humongous part of the party. Y’all think if he loses, he just disappears like after the Thanos snap?
He will stay dangerous until the day he’s taken his last orange breath.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 8:13 pm to jlnoles79
Trump unfortunately will win the nomination if he wants, his base can win anyone the nomination no matter how a big a loser they are.
As we know though if he wins the nomination he'll tank the GOP in 2024. He'll lose the general for sure and we'll likely see more states go blue like Georgia did. He needs to step aside and let Ron win the nomination because Ron WILL win the general in 2024 if he gets the nom.
As we know though if he wins the nomination he'll tank the GOP in 2024. He'll lose the general for sure and we'll likely see more states go blue like Georgia did. He needs to step aside and let Ron win the nomination because Ron WILL win the general in 2024 if he gets the nom.
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