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re: Denver shooting victim identified as pro-cop vet, shot in front of son
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:00 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:00 am to AggieHank86
quote:With Keltner clearly backing away as Dolloff drew and leveled his pistol, self-defense will be a tough claim. Second degree murder, rather than 1st degree, would seem to be the appropriate charge here.
I was the first person to post the text of the Colorado self-defense statute yesterday. Moron.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:00 am to Tiguar
It’s a little more ambiguous. But only because we don’t have immediate video and the assault was clear in the Rittenhouse case.
I don’t think it’s going to end up very ambiguous.
I don’t think it’s going to end up very ambiguous.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:02 am to AggieHank86
Yeah. But you did your typical Hank thing where you jumped in to correct a semantic point and then asserted yourself on the entire opposite side of the argument just because you’re a contrarian.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:02 am to RockinDood
quote:Fantasy.
you can clearly see that at the point that the pepper spray was deployed the shooters weapon has ALREADY been fired.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:03 am to AggieHank86
(d) calling you out on your bullshite and you cannot stand it.
You corrected a semantic point then decided to die on the hill of it.
You cannot sit there and be like “I was just posting the law bro” when you argued for two pages on the definition of “great bodily harm” and then bailed the frick out of the discussion saying you’re playing Minecraft after you got owned.
You strike me as an individual who didn’t have enough people in their life to tell them “you’re acting like a fricking moron” because the possibility you’re actually a jackass is completely outside of your realm of possibilities
You corrected a semantic point then decided to die on the hill of it.
You cannot sit there and be like “I was just posting the law bro” when you argued for two pages on the definition of “great bodily harm” and then bailed the frick out of the discussion saying you’re playing Minecraft after you got owned.
You strike me as an individual who didn’t have enough people in their life to tell them “you’re acting like a fricking moron” because the possibility you’re actually a jackass is completely outside of your realm of possibilities
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 8:05 am
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:04 am to Wolfhound45
quote:Yes.
He was reaching for his weapon while the victim has his hands at his side.
AFTER Keltner had hit him with enough force to knock his hat and glasses from his head.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:05 am to AggieHank86
Again, you keep saying this but....
A toddler can hit a grown man hard enough to do this.
Let’s not act like this requires the strength of a body builder
quote:
Yes. AFTER Keltner had hit him with enough force to knock his hat and glasses from his head.
A toddler can hit a grown man hard enough to do this.
Let’s not act like this requires the strength of a body builder
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:08 am to AggieHank86
quote:After Dolloff had attempted to grab the mace.
AFTER Keltner had hit him with enough force to knock his hat and glasses from his head.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:10 am to AggieHank86
And why did Keltner hit Dolloff?
We don’t know. The photos don’t show it.
So there’s a degree of ambiguity here.
But if I was a betting man, I’d guess that Dolloff yelled some insults at Keltner and/or engaged him physically - trying to take his mace? That’s based on his mom’s account of the situation which she received from Keltner’s son who was there.
Then we have a pretty good idea of the rest of the sequence.
We don’t know. The photos don’t show it.
So there’s a degree of ambiguity here.
But if I was a betting man, I’d guess that Dolloff yelled some insults at Keltner and/or engaged him physically - trying to take his mace? That’s based on his mom’s account of the situation which she received from Keltner’s son who was there.
Then we have a pretty good idea of the rest of the sequence.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:11 am to Tiguar
quote:Agreed. Just as the firearm was drawn in response to the physical assault by Keltner.
murderer was drawing his weapons so early that I would actually argue the victim was using pepper spray in defense of perceiving the guy to be drawing a weapon
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:14 am to roadGator
quote:I'd bet that isn't the last time the bitch feels his cheeks getting slapped.
because he was bitched slapped for being a bitch.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 8:15 am
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:14 am to AggieHank86
And the physical assault from Keltner happened ex nihilo.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:14 am to Tiguar
quote:I called the man “Bubba” because I did not yet know his name.
Making sweeping assertions with less facts than those you denigrate,
Moron.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:15 am to AggieHank86
It’s a pejorative and you know it.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:16 am to AggieHank86
Calm down, hank. It may be time for you to go kill more bunnies before you start shooting people for thinking differently.
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:16 am to Proximo
quote:Have you forgotten the prior assault on Dolloff by Keltner.
Is there a reason you gloss over the fact that a can of mace doesn’t induce a fear of death or GBH in a reasonable person?
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:17 am to AggieHank86
A slap isn’t GBH either. Statutorily or otherwise.
This is why you’re a dishonest bitch. You pretend you’re just correcting a misstatement of the law. But you can’t help yourself. You really just want to argue.
This is why you’re a dishonest bitch. You pretend you’re just correcting a misstatement of the law. But you can’t help yourself. You really just want to argue.
This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 8:18 am
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:18 am to the808bass
quote:
But if I was a betting man, I’d guess that Dolloff yelled some insults at Keltner and/or engaged him physically

Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:19 am to AggieHank86
If a toddler knocks my glasses off I can punt that fricker then? I mean after all that’s assault according to you
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:21 am to Homesick Tiger
Progfilth strikes again....And Biden campaign will deny it happened, again.
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