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re: Democrats want to shut down the government over amnesty for all

Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:47 am to
Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2707 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:47 am to
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Democrats want to shut down the government to protect illegal immigrants.


Why do let them get away with this is the question. A handful of Republicans stand up against them, hardly enough.

It’s time to stop cowering over their threats.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:48 am to
quote:

It would not make a damn if Trump proposed to do everything the Dems wanted, they would still oppose it...



Democrats want a government shut down more than they want a permanent DACA fix from congress.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:49 am to
quote:

bipartisan deal


Yeah, "here Mr. President, we are going to reinstate DACA with plenty of chains attached and we are not going to fund a wall or anything else"...

It might have been "bipartisan" but DEAL it was not...
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76495 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:49 am to
No. Fighting over a government shutdown which will be over daca.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68544 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:49 am to
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Democrats talk shite

FIFY
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:50 am to
quote:

. A bipartisan deal was brought to him, yet he turned it down.

Yea, that was one hell of a bad deal. Anything that keeps chain migration in play is a bad deal. Thank God Trump learned from Reagan's mistake and didn't fall for dems BS.


Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:51 am to
I think it will be beneficial for Republicans if Democrats shut down the government. They are 100% doing that because they want to continue chain immigration and demand open borders.

Neither of those things are even close to a moderate or reasonable stance.
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:51 am to
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Trump is going to demonize Democrats because he knows it’s really his fault. A bipartisan deal was brought to him, yet he turned it down.



Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102725 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:51 am to
quote:

The "let's give them amnesty now and give you security later" deal?

He was absolutely right to tell them to go pound sand. Those "we'll give you what YOU want later" deals are BS, and everyone knows it.


Trump learned from Reagan's mistake. And Dems are less honest today than they were in the 80s
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:53 am to
I dare Democrats to shut down FedGov to protect illegal immigrants. That's going to go over very well in mid terms.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47575 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:53 am to
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And Dems are less American today than they were in the 80s


Fify
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138923 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:53 am to
The upper middle class Democrats love this shite because it makes them feel good about themselves and they know the people they're so happy to let in are people with absolutely no skills. When the skilled illegals come in and start taking their jobs, they'll finally wake up.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:54 am to
quote:

Trump learned from Reagan's mistake. And Dems are less honest today than they were in the 80s

Yep, as bad and as dishonest as Tip O'Neil was, today's dem is far worse
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:54 am to
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Trump is going to demonize Democrats because he knows it’s really his fault. A bipartisan deal was brought to him, yet he turned it down.


You really this stupid?
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23920 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:54 am to
quote:

Trump needs to have a prime time speech, lay out what is proposed by the right, explain what the left wants and why they are trying to hold the American people hostage. Explain that the left can compromise or ICE can ship every DACA person home.


State of the Union would be the perfect time
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:55 am to
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State of the Union would be the perfect time



This will probably be solved by then.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71958 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Dems haven't done "bipartisan" in a decade.


I think it might be longer than that.
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71958 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:56 am to
No matter what Trump says they will be bitter. Give them all amnesty and it is on to the next leftist victory.


Voting rights for all those given amnesty.. Citizenship for all those given amnesty...
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 9:57 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 9:58 am to
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You really this stupid?



Yes, yes he is.

It's up to congress to come up with a permanent solution that POTUS can sign if they want DACA that badly. Trump is pushing them to negotiate on it and they HATE that.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12222 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:01 am to
I don't get the opposition to immigrant vetting. There's precedent in US policy. Hell, we almost didn't let Albert Einstein in due to some of his beliefs.
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