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re: Democrats laugh at idea of voter ID law
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The 24th Amendment, ratified in 1964, abolished the use of the poll tax (or any other tax) as a pre-condition for voting in federal elections
Not a tax. Derp.
Some people will go so far as to say that a citizen paying for their own expenses to get to a DMV to get a free ID is a poll tax.
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:11 pm to upgrayedd
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Some people will go so far as to say that a citizen paying for their own expenses to get to a DMV to get a free ID is a poll tax.
Sure. It cost money to get there. If a ID is a "poll tax" then so are transportation expenses.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:12 pm to TreyAnastasio
There is not one god damned thing wrong with requiring an id to vote.
Rampant identity theft, same day registration, motor voter - suuuuuuure no way there is fraud
Rampant identity theft, same day registration, motor voter - suuuuuuure no way there is fraud
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:12 pm to upgrayedd
Most libs gave up on that moronic claim a long time ago. Apparently, some are now realizing it was all they had in the first place and trying to go back to it.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:17 pm to TreyAnastasio
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If states want to pass out IDs to all its citizens then it wouldnt be a poll tax. If they were really concerned about voter fraud they would
Not a poll tax regardless of how much you pretend it is.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
"For federal elections, the poll tax is abolished absolutely as a prerequisite to voting, and no equivalent or milder substitute may be imposed. Any material requirement imposed upon the federal voter solely because of his refusal to waive the constitutional immunity subverts the effectiveness of the Twenty-fourth Amendment, and must fall under its ban." Harman v. Forssenius, 380 U.S. 528, 542 (1965)
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:38 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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More baseless claims and fake news from the Trump News Network
So none of those people vote? Do you honestly think this? And I don't watch Fox or CNN, FYI.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:40 pm to bamarep
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Because black and Hispanic people are too downtrodden to get an ID.
Didn't you already know that?
Honestly, if they are too downtrodden to get it, why don't we just give it to them for free? It's a piece of plastic. And their quality of life will increase with a government issued ID. What bad could possibly happen from this policy?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:47 pm to Speedy G
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"It is for state legislatures to weigh the costs and benefits of possible changes to their election codes, and their judgment must prevail unless it imposes a severe and unjustified overall burden upon the right to vote, or is intended to disadvantage a particular class." Crawford v. Marion County Election Board
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:48 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Because the goal of the law isnt to fight voter fraud
What is it designed to fight?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:52 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Voting
I've always been able to vote.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:53 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Voting
Well yea, voter fraud is a type of voting.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:01 pm to OMLandshark
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Honestly, if they are too downtrodden to get it, why don't we just give it to them for free? It's a piece of plastic. And their quality of life will increase with a government issued ID. What bad could possibly happen from this policy?
This is exactly what I feel the solution is. If people dont have a drivers lisense then issue them a citizen ID. This solves a lot of problems particularly for govt benefit fraud.
However the Libertarians will cry foul when you start "registering" people.
The question that I have for the ones who oppose ID laws is "if you dont want ID requirements then why do we even have registration laws?" Also, I have to present a picture ID when I vote in LA so why doesnt every one else...
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:02 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
To those clowns who babble on about the cost of getting an ID or getting to the polls...horse crap! Freedom has never been free! It's always cost a lot of blood to obtain it. And for Democrat minorities, they can always get a free ride to the polls. In point of fact, 40 yrs. ago I was in charge of lining up the "haulers" as we called them...and I was in charge of delivering the checks from the Democratic party of Louisiana to the said haulers and organizers...ya' see, I know what goes on inside the Democratic party first hand!!!!!
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:06 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Well it's part of a larger pattern of conservatives adding layer after layer to the voting process in order to suppress as much of the vote as possible.
I guess I am pro vote suppression. If you don't have the fortitude/intelligence to obtain some form of identification, you shouldn't vote.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:08 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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"It is for state legislatures to weigh the costs and benefits of possible changes to their election codes, and their judgment must prevail unless it imposes a severe and unjustified overall burden upon the right to vote, or is intended to disadvantage a particular class." Crawford v. Marion County Election Board
"The fact that most voters already possess a valid driver’s license, or some other form of acceptable identification, would not save the statute under our reasoning in Harper, if the State required voters to pay a tax or a fee to obtain a new photo identification." Id.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:11 pm to Speedy G
That isn't a rebuttal to what I posted.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:11 pm to TreyAnastasio
Another Bama fraud!
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:12 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Thankfully the constitution disagrees
The Constitution disagrees with a lot of things we allow today.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:01 pm to TreyAnastasio
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I have no clue how democrats defend this stance
Usually with the constitution
Okay, dickhead, show us in the constitution where it allows non citizens, dead citizens and citizens prohibited from voting to vote.
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