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Democrats Can’t Find $5 Billion for Border Wall But Gifted Iranian Regime with $5.7 Billio
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:20 pm
These are the same Democrats who under Barack Obama gifted the Iranian regime with $5.7 billion and a pallet of cash.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:22 pm to Jjdoc
midnight plane runs an shite.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:26 pm to Jjdoc
Dems are the enemy of America, as soon as you accept it, everything will start making sense
Posted on 12/11/18 at 10:34 pm to Jjdoc
Trumpkins Stuck On Stupid as always
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:17 pm to dram
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Trumpkins Stuck On Stupid as always
So, you have no argument. Thanks for playing, douche.
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:21 pm to Dead End
Couldn't we just have simply stacked up Obamaphones, food stamps, and EBT cards along the border and dumped a bunch of glue on them?
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:29 pm to Jjdoc
Liberals in the state of New York just gave 3 billion in tax incentives to Amazon and the richest man in the world, just saying
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:31 pm to Jjdoc
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a pallet of cash.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:55 pm to Wienerboy
Take 1.5 Trillion to the rich should have squeezed out five billion . Where is Mexico on this I thought they would pay , Don the Con what a joke for the POTUS.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:30 am to Jjdoc
Stupid fake news... you just can't help yourself.
"Half-True
Donald Trump says Iran got $150 billion and $1.8 billion in cash. That's Half True
By Jon Greenberg on Friday, April 27th, 2018 at 10:49 a.m.
In a wide ranging phone call to Fox & Friends, President Donald Trump repeated his objection to the 2015 nuclear agreement that rolled back Iran’s nuclear program.
"The past administration made a horrible deal giving $150 billion," Trump said April 26 on the Fox News morning show. "Giving $1.8 billion in cash — in actual cash carried out in barrels and in boxes from airplanes."
Of the two numbers he gave, $150 billion and $1.8 billion, the first is dodgy and the second is slightly exaggerated. And there’s no evidence that barrels and boxes were involved.
We reached out to the White House and will add their response when it arrives.
The $150 billion
The 2015 agreement freed up Iranian assets that had been frozen under sanctions. Called the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the deal included Iran and the United States, China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom and the European Union.
The agreement only affected sanctions imposed to punish Iran for its nuclear program. Iran has other assets that remain frozen.
Some conservatives have put the amount released after lifted sanctions as high as $150 billion, which is the highest of estimates we have seen. Another estimate from Iran’s Central Bank topped out at about $29 billion in readily available funds, with another $45 billion tied up in Chinese investment projects and the foreign assets of the Iran’s Oil Ministry.
After talking with officials at Iran’s Central Bank, Nader Habibi, professor of economics of the Middle East at Brandeis University, believes the actual total is between $25 billion and $50 billion.
In July 2015, U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told lawmakers Iran would gain access to $56 billion.
It’s important to know that little of that money was under the control of the United States or any U.S. bank. Most of it, Habibi said, was in central and commercial banks overseas. Furthermore, it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation.
The $1.8 billion
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The Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan analytic arm of Congress, reviewed this cash transfer in a 2018 report. It gave a total of $1.7 billion.
That was the amount that U.S. and Iranian negotiators settled on to resolve an arms contract between the United States and Iran that predated the Iranian revolution in 1979. Iran had paid for military equipment, and it was never delivered.
As of 1990, there were $400 million in that account. Negotiators agreed that accrued interest would add $1.3 billion to the amount, which is a lot of money — but 25 years is a long time for interest to build up the balance.
The United States sent the money to Iran in euros, Swiss francs and other currencies. Trump embellished when he mentioned barrels and boxes. Reports at the time said the money was packed and loaded onto pallets, similar to how other bulk goods are shipped."
Please stop lying to everyone on this board everyday
"Half-True
Donald Trump says Iran got $150 billion and $1.8 billion in cash. That's Half True
By Jon Greenberg on Friday, April 27th, 2018 at 10:49 a.m.
In a wide ranging phone call to Fox & Friends, President Donald Trump repeated his objection to the 2015 nuclear agreement that rolled back Iran’s nuclear program.
"The past administration made a horrible deal giving $150 billion," Trump said April 26 on the Fox News morning show. "Giving $1.8 billion in cash — in actual cash carried out in barrels and in boxes from airplanes."
Of the two numbers he gave, $150 billion and $1.8 billion, the first is dodgy and the second is slightly exaggerated. And there’s no evidence that barrels and boxes were involved.
We reached out to the White House and will add their response when it arrives.
The $150 billion
The 2015 agreement freed up Iranian assets that had been frozen under sanctions. Called the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the deal included Iran and the United States, China, France, Germany, Russia, the United Kingdom and the European Union.
The agreement only affected sanctions imposed to punish Iran for its nuclear program. Iran has other assets that remain frozen.
Some conservatives have put the amount released after lifted sanctions as high as $150 billion, which is the highest of estimates we have seen. Another estimate from Iran’s Central Bank topped out at about $29 billion in readily available funds, with another $45 billion tied up in Chinese investment projects and the foreign assets of the Iran’s Oil Ministry.
After talking with officials at Iran’s Central Bank, Nader Habibi, professor of economics of the Middle East at Brandeis University, believes the actual total is between $25 billion and $50 billion.
In July 2015, U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told lawmakers Iran would gain access to $56 billion.
It’s important to know that little of that money was under the control of the United States or any U.S. bank. Most of it, Habibi said, was in central and commercial banks overseas. Furthermore, it was Iran’s money to begin with, not a payment from any government to buy Iran’s cooperation.
The $1.8 billion
Sponsored Content
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By American Express
The Congressional Research Service, the nonpartisan analytic arm of Congress, reviewed this cash transfer in a 2018 report. It gave a total of $1.7 billion.
That was the amount that U.S. and Iranian negotiators settled on to resolve an arms contract between the United States and Iran that predated the Iranian revolution in 1979. Iran had paid for military equipment, and it was never delivered.
As of 1990, there were $400 million in that account. Negotiators agreed that accrued interest would add $1.3 billion to the amount, which is a lot of money — but 25 years is a long time for interest to build up the balance.
The United States sent the money to Iran in euros, Swiss francs and other currencies. Trump embellished when he mentioned barrels and boxes. Reports at the time said the money was packed and loaded onto pallets, similar to how other bulk goods are shipped."
Please stop lying to everyone on this board everyday
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:33 am to bamarep
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midnight plane runs an shite.
Another thread where you're disseminating false information. Cool
Posted on 12/12/18 at 3:23 am to Ebbandflow
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Jon Greenberg
lol
Sorry but there is no credibility in a post full of quotes from a leftist hack.
You might as well have quoted Samantha Bee.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 3:24 am to dram
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Trumpkins Stuck On Stupid as always
Right, give those terrorist mother frickers money.
stupid mother fricker
Posted on 12/12/18 at 5:59 am to Jjdoc
Are you forgetting that the GOP wouldn’t fund the wall either?
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:19 am to Jjdoc
OP, did we “give” Iran any of OUR money, or did we return THEIR money to them?
In other words, did the money sent to Iran come out of the federal budget or affect the federal budget in any way? If not, how is the first relevant to the second in any way whatsoever!
I am NOT asking whether we SHOULD have sent ANY money. That is an entirely different discussion.
Whose money was it? Simple question.
In other words, did the money sent to Iran come out of the federal budget or affect the federal budget in any way? If not, how is the first relevant to the second in any way whatsoever!
I am NOT asking whether we SHOULD have sent ANY money. That is an entirely different discussion.
Whose money was it? Simple question.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 8:47 am
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:23 am to AggieHank86
Did we have a special account for Iran’s 5.7 billion? Where do you think that was being held, if so? Was it interest bearing? Explain your ridiculous notion further please.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:39 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:I will be glad to engage in this discussion with you AFTER JJDoc answers my simple question. I have had my fill of ultra-Right posters starting a discussion on one topic and then spinning the discussion off in another direction when they are about to get their asses handed to them.
Did we have a special account for Iran’s 5.7 billion? Where do you think that was being held, if so? Was it interest bearing? Explain your ridiculous notion further please.
Tell you what, I will give you a question, too.
Did we freeze/seize Iranian funds, and did we “give” them anything in excess of what we seized?
AGAIN, I do not ask whether we SHOULD have done anything at all. I am asking your understanding of WHAT we did. We can analyze the right/wrong ONLY after we understand WHAT was actually done.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 6:52 am
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:49 am to AggieHank86
Ole Hank, putting the liberal in libertarian since 2013
Posted on 12/12/18 at 6:49 am to Jjdoc
Unfreezing Iranian assets that we took is not the same things as “giving” them billions of dollars but by all means don’t let facts get in the way of a good troll thread.
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