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Democratic socialists have completely undercut their main argument with the protests

Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:00 am
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29788 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:00 am
Whenever you point out that under Democratic socialism you lose your ability to chose who provides various services they will proudly tell you that “your vote is your choice” and that if you disagree with a government service you “just vote to change it”!

Of course that is the opposite of capitalism where I can just shop somewhere else any time I want, but I digress.

So why aren’t the rioters and protestors, 99% of which are socialists, just using their ‘voting powers of choice’, to change the system instead of, you know, rioting???



Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:01 am to
Maybe they are not socialists and they are anarchists?
Posted by Skorzany
Member since Dec 2018
356 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:01 am to
Yeah. It’s pretty funny actually.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:03 am to
All the left can do is fail. They never think of outcomes and lack long range planning.

Kind of glad they are unable to think critically. For them it is all emotion and instant gratification.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41680 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:06 am to
Democratic socialism is simply how communism gets its foot in the door. Vote for it to establish its legitimacy and then they remove your voice for your own good.
Posted by EthanHunt
Member since Sep 2020
66 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Whenever you point out that under Democratic socialism you lose your ability to chose who provides various services they will proudly tell you that “your vote is your choice” and that if you disagree with a government service you “just vote to change it”!

So why aren’t the rioters and protestors, 99% of which are socialists, just using their ‘voting powers of choice’, to change the system instead

"...under Democratic socialism..."

"...using their ‘voting powers of choice’, to change the system instead..."

because we dont have Democratic Socialism here. Are you seriously asking why they dont use their vote to change a system we dont have?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29788 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:11 am to
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because we dont have Democratic Socialism here. Are you seriously asking why they dont use their vote to change a system we dont have?


The problem they are fighting is state police.

States are Democratic

Democratic Socialism

Democratic Socialism

Democratic Socialism

Please try and keep up.
This post was edited on 9/6/20 at 9:13 am
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3263 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:18 am to
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because we dont have Democratic Socialism here. Are you seriously asking why they dont use their vote to change a system we dont have?


Dang dude, go back and read his post again and then work on your reading comprehension. That’s pretty bad, just saying. I hope you can do better.
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3263 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:21 am to
Haha, I’m sorry. I had to go back and read your post again and then come post again to laugh at you. That’s all, you are a gem!
Posted by EthanHunt
Member since Sep 2020
66 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:30 am to
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The problem they are fighting is state police.

States are Democratic

Democratic Socialism
wait. hold on.

you do understand thats not how it works right? like, the Arizona Cardinals and the St. Louis Cardinals arent the same team or even the same sport, right? They just have similar names. People here do know that, right?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39488 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:31 am to
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“your vote is your choice” and that if you disagree with a government service you “just vote to change it”!


You mean like Brexit? Where the people voted and had to wait 3 years and survive subsequent elections to get what they voted for? Libs are impossibly stupid.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29788 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:38 am to
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you do understand thats not how it works right? like, the Arizona Cardinals and the St. Louis Cardinals arent the same team or even the same sport, right? They just have similar names. People here do know that, right?




Then it would be Socialistic Democracy.

Is English not your first language? Still unclear on nouns and modifier placement?

See the Democratic is what makes the socialism part different and not the other way around. In fact NOT changing the Democratic part is their entire point when they push their nonsense.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39488 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:45 am to
The people espousing dem socialism know they have zero real support. The supporters they do have can muster the energy to vandalize property and get high all night, but not bother to wake up and vote the following morning.

The mainstream dem party know they can’t win without universal mail-in voting fraud. These people aren’t going to let something as trivial as the will of the people stop them.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
22158 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:47 am to
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Maybe they are not socialists and they are anarchists?

Anarchy is the tool of the socialists.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:49 am to
quote:

because we dont have Democratic Socialism here. Are you seriously asking why they dont use their vote to change a system we dont have?




No, he is saying why don't they use the system we have to vote in the shite they want?

If it is so attractive as they say they should spend more time talking about it instead of all the anti-Trump kneejerk bullshite they spout?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39488 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:50 am to
Right. People conflate social anarchy with political anarchy. The left uses social anarchy to get society to “tap out”.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
4995 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:52 am to
I understand you seem to lack the ability to follow a logical chain of reasoning and think sarcasm is the same as wit.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67940 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 9:58 am to
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capitalism where I can just shop somewhere else any time I want


When the left tells me to go to some other country if I don't like how they do things, their comment contains the false premise that there is some country out there that aligns with my believes and would let me in.

That doesn't exist, and that is why that argument is a fallacy. My only choice is to stay and try and shape my surroundings to fit my version of happiness.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39488 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 10:02 am to
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When the left tells me to go to some other country if I don't like how they do things


We just want to live by the principles of the constitution. They want a different society, so they should gtfo
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29788 posts
Posted on 9/6/20 at 10:21 am to
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When the left tells me to go to some other country if I don't like how they do things, their comment contains the false premise that there is some country out there that aligns with my believes and would let me in.

That doesn't exist, and that is why that argument is a fallacy. My only choice is to stay and try and shape my surroundings to fit my version of happiness.


Meanwhile they will point to 20 different countries as supposedly being superior to the US. If you think it’s so much better in Europe then move there!!!

It’s like they go to a Greek restaurant and want Chinese. Instead of going across the street to the Chinese restaurant they demand the Greek place cook them Chinese.
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