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re: Deindustrialization - Have We Become a Poor Country?
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:06 am to jrobic4
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:06 am to jrobic4
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They expect us to finance their problem
We’re pumping in hundreds of billions into the economy of one of the world’s most corrupt countries. I’m sure it’s all being put to good use.
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:06 am to Lima Whiskey
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They're outproducing us in every metric that I'm aware of though, from missiles, to armored vehicles, to air defense systems.
Okay, so that is true, then, since our budget is 635 billion more than theirs......where did the money go???
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:31 am to Bunk Moreland
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not producing real goods is just hocus pocus and will collapse, which is where we are headed.
It's exactly the opposite. We're in the process of a massive industrial buildout in North America. We're cutting China out and moving what was there back to the U.S. and Mexico.
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I guess the industrialization doesn't matter unless we need to fight a continental war.
We will never have to fight a continental war against a foreign enemy. Even if China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Africa, and the entire Arab world united against us, they still wouldn't be able to raise the capital to float a navy and land army across the oceans to conquer us.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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point of free systems is that there are inflationary periods and deflationary periods
How is our system "free?"
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:26 am to Lima Whiskey
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hey produce almost everything their country needs internally
They do not.
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maintained their production capacity, it dwarfs ours
Based on what specifically?
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One thing that struck me in Russia was how clean and well kept it was. The infrastructure was excellent too, its well maintained. This is true in Moscow, but it’s also true in Kazan, or Yekaterinburg.
Lol
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On the other hand, they’ve started to prioritize and reward large families the way Hungary has.
Which is still well below replacement.
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I’ve believe I’ve written this before, but my time in Russia made me nostalgic. The cohesiveness, the politeness, the basic good order of society, it reminded me of the America of my childhood. I wish that country still existed.
My god you are so damn retarded. It's impressive you keep at this despite being completely wrong about everything. You had quite a specific prediction which isn't going to come true, and yet that failure doesn't inform you.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:28 am to crazy4lsu
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. It's impressive you keep at this despite being completely wrong about everything
How much time have you spent in Russia?
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:29 am to Lima Whiskey
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Their government works better in some specific ways though, they pursue policies that reflect the national interest
If by that you mean putting themselves in intractable geopolitical situations, then yes.
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and their foreign ministry and ministry of finance are more professional than ours.
Where do you get this shite from?
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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How much time have you spent in Russia?
More than you. Not that your lack of experience or education has ever stopped you from speaking about things with which you have no familiarity.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:33 am to crazy4lsu
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More than you.
None. What I figured.
You read a book once and became an expert.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:35 am to RogerTheShrubber
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None. What I figured.
Nah, you dumb bitch. I've been to Moscow and Kazan with my dad and my good friend (and accountant) is from Kazan.
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You read a book once and became an expert.
You've never read anything and still talk like a damn woman.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:36 am to crazy4lsu
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I've been to Moscow and Kazan with my dad
When you grow up, you'll see the world like adults do.
Visit then, you'll see Russian through grown up eyes and not your dads.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 11:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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When you grow up, you'll see the world like adults do.
Lol
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Visit then, you'll see Russian through grown up eyes and not your dads.
Lol
Posted on 12/10/23 at 4:47 pm to Bunk Moreland
This can’t be good. We can’t suspend the laws of gravity forever.
I think one of the most important things to do, is trust your eyes, trust what you see in your own life, vs whatever you see in the media. And that’s not to say that things look rosy on television, but if you travel the country, things really don’t look good anymore. The country looks run down.
I think one of the most important things to do, is trust your eyes, trust what you see in your own life, vs whatever you see in the media. And that’s not to say that things look rosy on television, but if you travel the country, things really don’t look good anymore. The country looks run down.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:11 pm to Lima Whiskey
A service economy is what we used to make fun of the Chinese for. A bunch of people doing each others dry cleaning. It’s all smoke and mirrors unless you are turning raw materials into actual things.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:37 pm to NOLAVOL16
Bingo
Posted on 12/10/23 at 6:37 pm to NOLAVOL16
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A service economy is what we used to make fun of the Chinese for. A bunch of people doing each others dry cleaning.
Who did this? When?
China has never had a service economy and is trying to develop their economy from a manufacturing economy to a service economy
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It’s all smoke and mirrors unless you are turning raw materials into actual things.
Why do you think we aren't?
How many countries do you think produce more manufacturing output than the US?
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 12/10/23 at 8:34 pm to NOLAVOL16
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A service economy is what we used to make fun of the Chinese for.
What? When did China have a service economy?
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It’s all smoke and mirrors unless you are turning raw materials into actual things.
Just an antiquated, retarded way of thinking.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 10:06 pm to goatmilker
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Our Industrial output is almost 20 times that of russia.
Russia's GDP, pre-sanctions, was about on par with that of Texas. Most of that is due to export of low value-added commodities.
Posted on 12/16/23 at 10:48 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Lima Whiskey
Goddamn, you are one stupid motherfricker. How is your prediction that the Israelis might lose the war in Gaza coming along? They are cutting through them like hot butter like anyone even semi-informed knew would happen, but it doesn't seem to prevent you from making idiotic predictions and observations again and again.
American manufacturing output is, quite literally, 1 1/2 times that of the entire Russian economy altogether and almost 10 times that of Russian manufacturing output. You quite literally could not be more wrong that they produce more shite. It is plainly observable that they do not and are not in the same universe. They're closer to Mexico in manufacturing output capacity than they are to the U.S. (or, for that matter, Japan or Germany).
The U.S. produces more now in real dollar terms and in tonnage than it has in its entire history. The U.S. in 2023 is in the conversation for the greatest manufacturing power in the history of the world and has really only been surpassed by China in terms of raw output because they produce an enormous amount of state-subsidized low-value add goods.
If there are shortages in a few specific areas, it's largely because the U.S. hasn't prioritized manufacturing shells or R&M parts for pieces, not because they can't.
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On the other hand, they’ve started to prioritize and reward large families the way Hungary has.
And their replacement rate is still among the lowest in the world.
This post was edited on 12/16/23 at 10:57 pm
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