re: DataRepublican, “I’ve had change of heart on federal income tax.”

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Because those taxes pay for roads, schools, police and fire departments, parks, etc.,

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We're all being ripped off.

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got ripped to shite in another thread when I stated that roughly 40% of my income goes to some form of a tax.

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They must have only been thinking fed income tax alone.

Yes, I agree that when you aggregate all fed+state+local and toss in "fees" it's in the 40% range, minimum.

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When the government relies on taxing individual income, it shifts from serving its citizens to exploiting them as a revenue source. This dynamic creates an inherent friction, where the government no longer answers to the people but to the system that extracts from them. And if you look around, it's clear—whatever our tax dollars are funding, it’s not serving us.

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She perfectly states what exactly is going on without any hyperbole. DataRepublican I salute you.

You mean the exchange of money can fundamentally change the relationship between two parties?


This is where both Progressives and pure capitalists get it wrong. Ir i should say, don't get it.

Now do property tax
Both the income and property tax fly in the face of what this country was founded upon. They are anti freedom
Further they are anti God. It gives the government claim to the first fruits of man’s labor

Autist savants of the world unite and take over!!! (No sarcasm.)

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I got ripped to shite in another thread when I stated that roughly 40% of my income goes to some form of a tax.

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Easily 40%.

Effective 25% federal income tax.

9% sales tax.

6% state income tax.

I’m already at 40% and I still haven’t included property, excise and toll taxes.

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You mean the exchange of money can fundamentally change the relationship between two parties?

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That's not what she said, she said the method of taxation fundamentally changes the relationship between the two parties.

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Paying taxes in the USA is extremely unethical and immoral. Much more net harm is done than good with the money.

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I don't think it's immoral and unethical when being used properly, as I think it's good for citizens to put in something. No different than Tithing.

Now how it's used is a different story. Just like how a Pastor being a crook.

Property taxes are bad as it means you'll never own your property. But paying in something for proper use is being a good citizen. Protect our borders, etc. Not to let people live off the govt teat and/or to promote homosexual/tranny lifestyles. The list of what the govt should cover with our tax money is tiny compared to what it's being used for.

Also, using taxes increases/decreases as threats isn't ethical either. Any tax increase needs to be attached to a specific approved project and removed after an agreed time period.

If we didn't spend so much on unneeded garbage we wouldn't need to be importing the 3rd world.

I know I'm on the "beat him up" side of this argument, but 10-15% flat taxes imo isn't a bad thing. No matter where the money came from.

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Property taxes are the worst and it isn't close.

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To be fair, he didn't say that income taxes were the worst.

He said they were the worse.

He just didn't tell us what he was comparing them to.

So if he meant something like, "Between income taxes and taxes on cigarettes, income taxes are the worse of the two," I would agree with him.