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re: Dash cam video of Philando Castile killing

Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:53 pm to
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wow I definitely know you are not a LEO. You probably wouldn't last one week on the job.


No one wants to be you.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:53 pm to
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wow I definitely know you are not a LEO. You probably wouldn't last one week on the job
I bet you think this is an indictment
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14067 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:54 pm to
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I am about as far from a liberal as you'll ever see.

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NYNolaguy1


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129001 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:54 pm to
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smoke pot but not in the presence of children nor while carrying a gun.


Was it established in the trial that Castile was high?
Posted by AHCOO
Somewhere Texas
Member since Sep 2015
455 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:54 pm to
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No one wants to be you.


im glad you are not my partner that's forsure.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129001 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:55 pm to
I am, too. You're a disgrace to humanity. If that sounds strong, I'm understating it.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16766 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:55 pm to
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Sure. And if the person is holding a BB gun or a Nintendo gun, they are presenting a reasonable threat that justifies a police shooting. The police officer gets to beat the consequences of shooting an unarmed person and the civilian is dead. Good shoot.


You are correct. That is the way it works. But for the record, civilians are held to the same standard. If civilian A pulls a BB gun on civilian B, it is reasonable that civilian B will not know it is a BB gun. So if civilian B fears for his life, he may shoot civilian A, regardless of facts later learned after the shoot.

Is this not a reasonable approach for both officers and civilians? What do you recommend as a more reasonable approach for the courts to consider?

Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:55 pm to
And another officer on the scene said the gun was partially showing and slipped right out of his pocket.


Your point?
Posted by AHCOO
Somewhere Texas
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:55 pm to
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I bet you think this is an indictment
no but I know My use of force policy and in this situation it was needed and justified.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:57 pm to
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Was it established in the trial that Castile was high?



Was it established in the trial that Castile wasn't high?
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 6:00 pm
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14067 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:57 pm to
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the808bass

Holy frick, you are rustled.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14684 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:57 pm to
It's not just being around a firearm, goofball. It's being around a concealed firearm, after having pulled over a complete stranger who does not seem to respect or understand the protocol to be used with officers when in a concealed carry situation. A protocol that is drummed in your head during instruction to get that license, telling you that following instructions, and keeping your hands visible to the officer may mean your life.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129001 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:58 pm to
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And another officer on the scene said the gun was partially showing and slipped right out of his pocket. Your point?


There wasn't "no evidence." There just wasn't conclusive evidence either way. You can, along with other trusters-of-all-police-actions, pretend this is all cut and dried and a good shoot. That's why you're going to lose the argument in the long term.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:58 pm to
Yes- toxicology reports showed high levels of THC and gf admitted in testimony they had been smoking.

It was also shown that he lied on his CCP about his marijuana usage- so he really shouldn't have even had a CCP if we're being honest about it. His frequent MJ use was well documented on his and the gf's social media accounts.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 6:16 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129001 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:58 pm to
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Was it established in the trial that Castile wasm't high?


It wasn't. You seemed pretty sure he was. So I thought maybe you knew something I didn't.
Posted by AHCOO
Somewhere Texas
Member since Sep 2015
455 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:58 pm to
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I am, too. You're a disgrace to humanity. If that sounds strong, I'm understating it.
your words don't and won't hurt me. But I can guarantee you that if you were in that situation you wouldn't hesitate to put a couple of bullets in the side of that assholes head.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129001 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:00 pm to
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toxicology reports showed high levels of PCP


I think you may be confused as to which bad shoot you're defending.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:00 pm to
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They didn't fire him?


They sure did, but so what. People are fired every day without breaking the law.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129001 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:00 pm to
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a-holes head.


There it is. Good job, buddy.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:01 pm to
But you're choosing to believe the paramedics claim and consider it proof for your narrative?
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