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Dartmouth basketball team ruled to be employees.

Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:28 am
Posted by djmed
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:28 am
National Labor Relations Board delivers potential fatal blow to NCAA with landmark Dartmouth ruling

The National Labor Relations Board has ruled in favor of the men’s college basketball team at Dartmouth College, classifying them as employees of the university in a decision that could have massive ramifications for the NCAA and the future of college sports.

In September 2023, the Dartmouth College men’s basketball team filed a petition with the NLRB by the Service Employees International Union, seeking representation and to be classified as employees of Dartmouth. With the SEIU listed as the petitioner in the motion, the men’s basketball team became the latest college athletes to attempt to unionize and challenge the National Collegiate Athletics Association’s classification of student-athletes.


Nearly nine years after efforts by Northwestern football players to unionize failed, the NRLB has now issued a ruling that could have massive ramifications for the NCAA.

As first reported by Amanda Christovi of Front Office Sports, the NLRB ruled on Monday that the men’s basketball players who filed the petition are employees of the school and will thus be allowed to unionize.


The NLRB released a statement explaining the ruling.

“Dartmouth takes the position the petitioned-for basketball players are not employees within the meaning of the Act and submits that the petition should be dismissed. In addition, Dartmouth takes the position that the Board should decline to assert jurisdiction over the basketball players so as not to create instability in labor relations. As set forth below, I find that because Dartmouth has the right to control the work performed by the men’s varsity basketball team, and because the players perform that work in exchange for compensation, the petitioned-for basketball players are employees within the meaning of the Act.

Additionally, I find that asserting jurisdiction would not create instability in labor relations.

Accordingly, I shall direct an election in the petitioned-for unit.”

National Labor Relations Board ruling on Dartmouth men’s basketball players being classified as employees


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Posted by The Maj
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:30 am to
It will not bother me one bit when college athletics are completely destroyed...

I haven't missed college football yet...
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:31 am to
What does this mean for the future of NIL?
Posted by captainFid
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:31 am to
This will be fun - Insane, but fun to watch.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:32 am to

The days of the student athlete is coming to an end.

Posted by Motownsix
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:32 am to
Unless something changed in recent years Dartmouth doesn’t even offer athletic scholarships. I’m fairly certain that athletes on scholarship have always been considered university employees to some degree. Things that happened during Katrina at LSU and only scholarship athtletes were allowed to work on campus during the mess when campus was being used as a control center.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:34 am to
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days of the student athlete is coming to an end.


This is why good college coaches are quitting or moving to the NFL.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:36 am to
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It will not bother me one bit when college athletics are completely destroyed...

I haven't missed college football yet...



I've felt the same way since NIL was passed.
Posted by ksayetiger
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:42 am to
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This is why good college coaches are quitting or moving to the NFL.




What a dumb statement.

Saban retired (about time)
Harbaugh went to nfl (his passion, he cam cheat easier there)

Besides those two that is basically it
Posted by sportsaddit68
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:53 am to
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What does this mean for the future of NIL?


That's the big question. How can 1 "employee" make a million for NIL when doing their "Job" and the other employees can't?
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:55 am to
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As set forth below, I find that because Dartmouth has the right to control the work performed by the men’s varsity basketball team, and because the players perform that work in exchange for compensation, the petitioned-for basketball players are employees within the meaning of the Act.


Dartmouth should simply dissolve their BB program and all their athletic programs. They are an Ivy League school and do not provide athletic scholarships. How is this a win for anyone, particularly the athletes? You’ve given the school every incentive to dissolve what you love to do at a division I level? They weren’t receiving monetary support in the form of financial assistance for academics to begin with?
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:00 am to
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National Labor Relations Board ruling on Dartmouth men’s basketball players being classified as employees


Posted by Pacito
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:03 am to
As employees, do they have to pay for school now, or do all the other employees of the school get cost free educations?
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:04 am to
Will this stand up to Appeal? It's the death of the NCAA if so.
Posted by bayou2
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:05 am to


... my take away is that future NIL negotiations will likely cut agents and parents out of any finicial decisions since player now an employee of the university. An employee is paid by the university and the univetsity is required to protect its interests ...

Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:07 am to
“Yesterday’s solutions are often the problems of today,”

to paraphrase Thomas Sowell

Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:11 am to
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What a dumb statement.

Saban retired (about time)
Harbaugh went to nfl (his passion, he cam cheat easier there)

Besides those two that is basically it


Boston College's HC just took a paycut to go be DC of the Packers because college coaching sucks so much now.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:34 am to
Will be interesting to see how this plays out with regard to Title IX, IRS, 1099s etc.
Posted by DesScorp
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:48 am to
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It will not bother me one bit when college athletics are completely destroyed... I haven't missed college football yet...


I’ve said it on the Rant board until I’m blue in the face. If you want to save college sports, ban athletic scholarships and limit the number of games. Nothing but real students, on their own dime.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 2/6/24 at 11:48 am to
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Dartmouth should simply dissolve their BB program and all their athletic programs.
Absolutely.
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