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re: Daily Show obliterates opposition to state level Medicade expansion
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:06 am to VOR
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:06 am to VOR
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And it's by no means certain what precisely will happen in the sharing of Medicaid costs in 2020.
So you're saying take a few years of "free" money, and then put yourself on the hook for an undetermined amount, for eternity?
And if Jindal did this, and it would undoubtedly end up costing the state big time down the road, you and others would be screaming about how Jindal mortgaged the future of the children of La.
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:15 am to Alahunter
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Using a comedian for policy talking points. Nice.
more accurate source of news than fox 'news' anytime. If you want comedy mixed in your news watch that channel.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:16 am to redandright
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So you're saying take a few years of "free" money, and then put yourself on the hook for an undetermined amount, for eternity?
One thing I'm saying is that Jindal's decision was based upon political ambition rather than fiscal responsibility.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:22 am to VOR
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One thing I'm saying is that Jindal's decision was based upon political ambition rather than fiscal responsibility.
How do you know that? You know his thinking?
So only people who agree with you have the best interest of the state at heart?
It makes absolutely no sense to accept that deal from the Feds, states that do it are going to be sorry.
That's like the Housing bubble all over again.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:25 am to Draconian Sanctions
Oh yeah, he really obliterated it
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:28 am to redandright
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You know his thinking?
Pretty much.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:31 am to VOR
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One thing I'm saying is that Jindal's decision was based upon political ambition rather than fiscal responsibility
I thought jan brewer was gutless for vetoing that bill; however, it was the right economic decision for the State of Arizona.
Jindal made the RIGHT economic decision for the State of Louisiana by not taking this pig in a poke, regardless of his perceived motivations.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:31 am to VOR
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The reality is this. Healthcare costs will be with us as a nation no matter what we do or political position we take. And no matter what political party is in power, from here to eternity, the public (government) will be paying at least some significant portion of it. Does anyone here honestly believe that is not the case?
And the Space Shuttle is perfectly engineered and WILL fly back and forth to the Space Station.
VOR...the foundational premise of this whole altruistic vision is for responsible folk to pay for irresponsible folk, in many instances. How do you sell that reality, to the responsible folk who get the shaft? There is only one way, and that is to come down hard - I.e., make it criminal - for irresponsible folk to be health irresponsible. And that is herding cats on a degree that even a Space Shuttle is simple.
Now per the book "Abundance", we may be able to invent high tech that can mitigate the (irresponsible) behavior and choices of individuals, but like with the Green Tech, to try to impose an economically unviable, current tech paradigm of the Collective before such is viable...will only cause economic collapse, and probably shut down the whole thing.
The insane (Cloward-Piven/Community Organizer) strategy of Obama/Progs to overload this system, collapse it, and then the Government steps in to save the day...is one of the damndest gambits in the history of politics. Anybody even close to Katrina can know that.
They had better drop that egalitarian thing and get some serious minds on the health care issue before this whole credit thing goes south, and we end up back in caves or lean to's.
Fool's gold. 
Posted on 3/1/14 at 9:37 am to Draconian Sanctions
There's an easy solution. Allows states to opt back out when the Federal Gov changes the percentage they provide.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:27 am to VOR
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The reality is this. Healthcare costs will be with us as a nation no matter what we do or political position we take. And no matter what political party is in power, from here to eternity, the public (government) will be paying at least some significant portion of it. Does anyone here honestly believe that is not the case?
Tp get back on topic, DS got suckered by political satire that was either flat out wrong, or trolling the people who actually believe it.
Expansion will cost the states.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:35 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:It's cute you actually believe this.
Daily Show obliterates opposition to state level Medicade expansion
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:39 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Which corporations are part of this. Name them. Show evidence.
government is a problem in this country but only because of the corporatocracy,
Meanwhile...
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"government should prevent an immoderate, and especially unmerited, accumulation of riches."
-Jefferson
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 10:41 am
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:41 am to Taxing Authority
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Daily Show obliterates opposition to state level Medicade expansion
It's cute you actually believe this.
It's cute he actually thought he would make some "gotcha" point with false information
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:It's deeper than that. To buy into the premise of the OP, you have to see dependency as a virtue.
Everyone knows the fed's generosity has a time limit. In this case, it's til 2020
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:45 am to VOR
quote:Capitulation to mooching.
The reality is this. Healthcare costs will be with us as a nation no matter what we do or political position we take.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 10:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Take note. He lives in TX. A state that did not expand Medicade (sic).
It's cute he actually thought he would make some "gotcha" point with false information
Posted on 3/1/14 at 11:17 am to blueboy
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O'Reilly have often squared off in highly publicized debates. Both are icons of their respective sides of the aisle.
O'Reilly is no icon of the Right. The only people who watch his show are those who love Drama, and being constantly outraged.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:48 pm to Taxing Authority
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Which corporations are part of this. Name them. Show evidence. Meanwhile...
looks like most of that increase (from your chart)is attributable to increased social security spending which is what you would expect with an aging society
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:52 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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:inb4attackingthesource:
Cause it's the daily show. I don't even need to click the link to know your headline is completely misleading.
Posted on 3/1/14 at 1:26 pm to boxcar willie
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Using a comedian for policy talking points. Nice.
more accurate source of news than fox 'news' anytime. If you want comedy mixed in your news watch that channel.
I take it you're assuming, I get my news from Fox. The only thing you've displayed, and others, in your indignation of that comment, is that yall rely on comedians, as actual news sources. It's quite pathetic, really.
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