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Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:20 am to
Posted by B4YOU
Member since May 2018
344 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:20 am to
Deaths lag infections. It also depends on who is getting infected. With the return of in-person schools, the average age of infection is declining. This declining age reduces the death rate. CDC link shows the declining age.

LINK
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:32 am to
Our use of therapeutics is also getting better with more experience with the disease and these pandemic bugs tend to get less deadly over time as less lethal strains out-survive more lethal ones, but yes, we seem to be in the lag.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69285 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:35 am to
Case in point: Spain.


Spain’s 2nd wave has more cases than the first wave, but deaths seem to be way less this time around (around 150 daily deaths vs 500 in April)
Posted by mrgreenpants
paisaland
Member since Mar 2018
1421 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:24 pm to
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4281 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Our use of therapeutics is also getting better with more experience with the disease and these pandemic bugs tend to get less deadly over time as less lethal strains out-survive more lethal ones, but yes, we seem to be in the lag.



All of this. If Chris Christie can survive it with his 20+ risk raising factors, we can treat most any healthy adult through it provided we're catching it early.
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1209 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 5:19 pm to
Yup, all about catching it early. Reminded my old man, who is the poster child for at-risk, of that fact when he had his second miss a couple of weeks ago. Get tested before symptoms, if positive immediately call the doc.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6834 posts
Posted on 10/20/20 at 6:49 pm to
This is the link to the COVID-19 tracker that I have created and shared on Google Drive.
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/
















7 Day Average Growth of New Cases by State


7 Day Average Growth of Deaths by State


7-day average Positivity Rate
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6834 posts
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:13 pm to
This is the link to the COVID-19 tracker that I have created and shared on Google Drive.
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/
















7 Day Average Growth of New Cases by State


7 Day Average Growth of Deaths by State


7-day average Positivity Rate
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 9:48 am to
Any reason in particular that deaths seem to be ticking back up?
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6834 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 9:55 am to
I guess it is because more deaths are being reported as COVID?

There is a pretty clear pattern between cases and deaths. Cases started rising back in September, now a month later deaths are on the upswing again.

The good news would be that the further we get into this, the less reaction we're seeing from the death curve compared to the case curve. Easily explained by most of the early deaths were from elderly. Now that the spread is mainly general population people are catching the disease, but they aren't dying from it.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
1797 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 10:02 am to
Without going into state by state data, just looking at your graphs, couple of questions...

1. Is this really a second wave or is it some of the northern states just now having their first wave?

2. Are states still doing retroactive death data dumps, and if so could that account for the slight uptick?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111508 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Any reason in particular that deaths seem to be ticking back up?


Because it’s made up numbers.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 11:48 am to
You've got some of both. Upper midwest/great plains/big sky areas are getting their first big spikes (e.g. Wisconsin who was keeping it to <1K cases/day until the beginning of September has had >4K/day for the past couple of days) while other that were hit early like Pennsylvania are getting a second rise.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69285 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 11:49 am to
quote:

while other that were hit early like Pennsylvania are getting a second rise.
And also, for states like PA that were hit hard in spring, it is a different area seeing a big spike now. spring it was mainly philly and surrounding areas.

Now it is the rural interior.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 11:52 am to
I haven't seen anybody sleuth out how much of it is purely related to time indoors. The summer spikes in the sunbelt may have been people staying for the A/C and now less outdoor time for people in northern climes.
This post was edited on 10/22/20 at 11:55 am
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Because it’s made up numbers.

Well yeah, but I'm assuming a lot of the numbers have been made up this entire time. I guess it is right before the election, so a spike in deaths would be convenient.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17882 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

Well yeah, but I'm assuming a lot of the numbers have been made up this entire time. I guess it is right before the election, so a spike in deaths would be convenient.

Going into October they had more than 30,000 "COVID deaths" to be harvested for reporting leading up to the election. A rise in this totally fabricated number a week before the election is no surprise.
Posted by mrgreenpants
paisaland
Member since Mar 2018
1421 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by B4YOU
Member since May 2018
344 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

Going into October they had more than 30,000 "COVID deaths" to be harvested for reporting leading up to the election. A rise in this totally fabricated number a week before the election is no surprise.


Can you provide a link for this number or that deaths are being held back for election purposes?
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8141 posts
Posted on 10/22/20 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Can you provide a link for this number or that deaths are being held back for election purposes?


He's referring to the number of "excess deaths" above historical average that have not been included as COVID deaths yet.

Not going into the deaths being held back for election purposes. These data departments are swamped everywhere. Even Florida is still reporting deaths from 2-3 months ago (about 1/3 of their daily deaths are more than 6 weeks old).
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