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re: Daily COVID Updated as of 11/2/20 8:00 PM
Posted on 8/15/20 at 4:07 pm to Chromdome35
Posted on 8/15/20 at 4:07 pm to Chromdome35
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If there is going to be a school spike, we should start to see that in around 2 weeks.
No indeed not! It will take at least eight weeks. A school spike comes from kids getting infected. They will all be asymptomatic. If you randomly test the kids a lot, then do contact tracing, you will get an early spike in cases, but it won’t show up in hospitals and deaths until enough time has gone by to spread the infection among their families.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 4:42 pm to Penrod
That is a good point, you may very well be right.
Posted on 8/15/20 at 5:04 pm to Chromdome35
This is the link to the COVID-19 tracker that I have created and shared on Google Drive.
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/
New Cases by State
New Deaths by State
7-day average growth rate of new cases

If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/
New Cases by State
New Deaths by State
7-day average growth rate of new cases
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:44 am to Chromdome35
Outstanding work chrome.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 12:41 pm to the808bass
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I may be reading this incorrectly, but this is a really odd sentence that is kind of buried in the article. We already have a huge issue with the accuracy of the tests we are using. I don’t have a rock solid handle on the pathology question, but a less sensitive test seems to indicate less accuracy. Is this test a coin flip? How does living our lives subject to a coin flip at every point of entrance into a group improve our situation?
i'm sure this has been linked before, but have a look at the definitions here:
LINK
accuracy is a derived thing (the formula is given in the entry).
creating (with all that goes into that) a high-sensitivity test is, broadly speaking, expensive (in time & money). so the article seems to be written to advance the idea that cheaper (t & m) and therefore more broadly available testing (even though it may be less sensitive) is a net gain.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 2:09 pm to the808bass
quote:I know this is one of your main tenets, but I disagree - at least in part. Certainly you agree that if we had instant contact testing (like, they take your temp and it tells you simultaneously if you have the virus or not), then it would be relatively easy to widely prevent the spread...enough so that we could bridge to a vaccine and/or have it just snuff out from isolation.
We can’t test our way out of a virus. We were told we could. We can’t. This article subscribes to that fallacy.
Thus, the goal should be getting as close to that ideal as possible. If we can get it down to 15-minute spit tests, then I would argue we are effectively there. At the very least, it would be a lot easier to re-open things en masse. People could fly to see their relatives, take an exit test at the airport, etc. etc.
I only got this anecdotally via friends there, so I'm looking for some corroboration, but Orlando had a vote of their taxpayers sending children to school to go remote or re-open. Only 20% voted to re-open. At this point - regardless of how we got here - the main thing killing the economy is the populace's fear itself and not government actions. I think the quickest way to win the populace back is rapid testing.
This post was edited on 8/16/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 8/16/20 at 3:00 pm to Big Scrub TX
Contact tracing is a fantasy with a virus that already has pervasive community spread.
Korea and Taiwan could pretend to do it because they started very early. At this point, it’s over. It’s been over since April.
Korea and Taiwan could pretend to do it because they started very early. At this point, it’s over. It’s been over since April.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 4:32 pm to Penrod
The numbers will be very low to none.
These kids haven’t been social distancing and staying home. They have been hanging out in large groups throughout the week, every week.
These kids haven’t been social distancing and staying home. They have been hanging out in large groups throughout the week, every week.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:33 pm to Big Scrub TX
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spread...enough so that we could bridge to a vaccine and/or have it just snuff out from isolation.
Why not just sprinkle fairy dust on it?
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:17 pm to Chromdome35
This is the link to the COVID-19 tracker that I have created and shared on Google Drive.
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/
New Cases by State
New Deaths by State
7-day average growth rate of new cases

If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/
New Cases by State
New Deaths by State
7-day average growth rate of new cases
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:22 pm to Chromdome35
I found all the Karen’s in this thread. Jesus
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:32 pm to Big Scrub TX
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and/or have it just snuff out from isolation
To say something like this about a respiratory illness that has become pervasive throughout not just the US, but the entire world's, population is incredibly stupid.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:47 pm to Chromdome35
Hospitalizations down over 5k from last Sunday. Deaths are about to fall off the cliff, allowing of course for somebody to magically reclassify a bunch of presumed COVID deaths and dump then into the count.
7 day positivity is going to plummet once Wednesday's frickery cycles through.
7 day positivity is going to plummet once Wednesday's frickery cycles through.
Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:12 pm to Big Scrub TX
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only got this anecdotally via friends there, so I'm looking for some corroboration, but Orlando had a vote of their taxpayers sending children to school to go remote or re-open. Only 20% voted to re-open. At this point - regardless of how we got here - the main thing killing the economy is the populace's fear itself and not government actions. I think the quickest way to win the populace back is rapid testing.
St. Louis area school parents voted to send their kids back at 60-90% rates (based on the school district). The districts basically ignored the parents.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 5:19 am to Chromdome35
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:05 am to GeauxWrek
Coding error. Surrreee!!!!
Posted on 8/17/20 at 1:15 pm to the808bass
quote:I mean, I would say anything below 80% shows significant fear. Still, sounds like the 90s at least should have won out.
St. Louis area school parents voted to send their kids back at 60-90% rates (based on the school district). The districts basically ignored the parents.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 1:16 pm to BayBengal9
quote:What's your explanation for New Zealand and the rest of the first world? MERS? SARS?
To say something like this about a respiratory illness that has become pervasive throughout not just the US, but the entire world's, population is incredibly stupid.
Posted on 8/17/20 at 1:45 pm to Big Scrub TX
MERS and SARS were significantly less contagious.
New Zealand is an island with a small population. They locked everything down and have remained so.
It’s looking like they’re going to have to keep the country locked down indefinitely until a vaccine or all of their draconian measures were for naught.
The “rest of the first world” have extremely similar curves to us and even worse mortality per capita.
New Zealand is an island with a small population. They locked everything down and have remained so.
It’s looking like they’re going to have to keep the country locked down indefinitely until a vaccine or all of their draconian measures were for naught.
The “rest of the first world” have extremely similar curves to us and even worse mortality per capita.
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