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Posted on 8/15/20 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55587 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

If there is going to be a school spike, we should start to see that in around 2 weeks.

No indeed not! It will take at least eight weeks. A school spike comes from kids getting infected. They will all be asymptomatic. If you randomly test the kids a lot, then do contact tracing, you will get an early spike in cases, but it won’t show up in hospitals and deaths until enough time has gone by to spread the infection among their families.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8170 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 4:42 pm to
That is a good point, you may very well be right.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8170 posts
Posted on 8/15/20 at 5:04 pm to
This is the link to the COVID-19 tracker that I have created and shared on Google Drive.
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/















New Cases by State


New Deaths by State


7-day average growth rate of new cases
Posted by AthensTiger
Athens, GA
Member since Jul 2008
2977 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:44 am to
Outstanding work chrome.
Posted by compscitiger
Secret City
Member since Oct 2007
115 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 12:41 pm to
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I may be reading this incorrectly, but this is a really odd sentence that is kind of buried in the article. We already have a huge issue with the accuracy of the tests we are using. I don’t have a rock solid handle on the pathology question, but a less sensitive test seems to indicate less accuracy. Is this test a coin flip? How does living our lives subject to a coin flip at every point of entrance into a group improve our situation?


i'm sure this has been linked before, but have a look at the definitions here:

LINK

accuracy is a derived thing (the formula is given in the entry).

creating (with all that goes into that) a high-sensitivity test is, broadly speaking, expensive (in time & money). so the article seems to be written to advance the idea that cheaper (t & m) and therefore more broadly available testing (even though it may be less sensitive) is a net gain.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8170 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 1:52 pm to
Thanks, Athens!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 2:09 pm to
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We can’t test our way out of a virus. We were told we could. We can’t. This article subscribes to that fallacy.
I know this is one of your main tenets, but I disagree - at least in part. Certainly you agree that if we had instant contact testing (like, they take your temp and it tells you simultaneously if you have the virus or not), then it would be relatively easy to widely prevent the spread...enough so that we could bridge to a vaccine and/or have it just snuff out from isolation.

Thus, the goal should be getting as close to that ideal as possible. If we can get it down to 15-minute spit tests, then I would argue we are effectively there. At the very least, it would be a lot easier to re-open things en masse. People could fly to see their relatives, take an exit test at the airport, etc. etc.

I only got this anecdotally via friends there, so I'm looking for some corroboration, but Orlando had a vote of their taxpayers sending children to school to go remote or re-open. Only 20% voted to re-open. At this point - regardless of how we got here - the main thing killing the economy is the populace's fear itself and not government actions. I think the quickest way to win the populace back is rapid testing.
This post was edited on 8/16/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 3:00 pm to
Contact tracing is a fantasy with a virus that already has pervasive community spread.

Korea and Taiwan could pretend to do it because they started very early. At this point, it’s over. It’s been over since April.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108983 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 4:32 pm to
The numbers will be very low to none.


These kids haven’t been social distancing and staying home. They have been hanging out in large groups throughout the week, every week.

Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35333 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

spread...enough so that we could bridge to a vaccine and/or have it just snuff out from isolation.



Why not just sprinkle fairy dust on it?
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8170 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:17 pm to
This is the link to the COVID-19 tracker that I have created and shared on Google Drive.
If you want to view the shared sheet, follow this link COVID-19 Tracker
If you want to download a copy of this sheet and manipulate it follow this link Downloadable COVID-19 Tracker
The source for the data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/















New Cases by State


New Deaths by State


7-day average growth rate of new cases
Posted by LifeTimeTiger2
Member since Apr 2017
511 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:22 pm to
I found all the Karen’s in this thread. Jesus
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:32 pm to
quote:

and/or have it just snuff out from isolation


To say something like this about a respiratory illness that has become pervasive throughout not just the US, but the entire world's, population is incredibly stupid.
Posted by AUMIS01
Atlanta
Member since May 2020
1447 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:47 pm to
Hospitalizations down over 5k from last Sunday. Deaths are about to fall off the cliff, allowing of course for somebody to magically reclassify a bunch of presumed COVID deaths and dump then into the count.

7 day positivity is going to plummet once Wednesday's frickery cycles through.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128844 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

only got this anecdotally via friends there, so I'm looking for some corroboration, but Orlando had a vote of their taxpayers sending children to school to go remote or re-open. Only 20% voted to re-open. At this point - regardless of how we got here - the main thing killing the economy is the populace's fear itself and not government actions. I think the quickest way to win the populace back is rapid testing.


St. Louis area school parents voted to send their kids back at 60-90% rates (based on the school district). The districts basically ignored the parents.
Posted by GeauxWrek
Somewhere b/w Houston and BR
Member since Sep 2010
5022 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 5:19 am to
Beating the dead horse, but are we ever going to get 'good' data?

LINK
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
2011 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 7:05 am to
Coding error. Surrreee!!!!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 1:15 pm to
quote:


St. Louis area school parents voted to send their kids back at 60-90% rates (based on the school district). The districts basically ignored the parents.
I mean, I would say anything below 80% shows significant fear. Still, sounds like the 90s at least should have won out.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 1:16 pm to
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To say something like this about a respiratory illness that has become pervasive throughout not just the US, but the entire world's, population is incredibly stupid.
What's your explanation for New Zealand and the rest of the first world? MERS? SARS?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 1:45 pm to
MERS and SARS were significantly less contagious.

New Zealand is an island with a small population. They locked everything down and have remained so.

It’s looking like they’re going to have to keep the country locked down indefinitely until a vaccine or all of their draconian measures were for naught.

The “rest of the first world” have extremely similar curves to us and even worse mortality per capita.
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