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re: Daily COVID Updated as of 11/2/20 8:00 PM

Posted on 7/22/20 at 6:57 am to
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 6:57 am to
Something like this Forbes article comparing “stolen days” by Covid to other causes of death

LINK
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 8:57 am to
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now this is a good analytical question.


i think youll find this lowers life expectancy but would be curious to see if someone knows how to pull data set or can help with who would have it ill lokk more into it



I looked at the CDC provisional death data as of July 11, which has it broken down by age groups.

I ran the numbers using the lower bound of the group as well as the upper bound. For example, for the 15-24 age group, I ran the numbers as if all deaths were age 15 and then again at 24. It's not perfect because it's likely not an even distribution even within these 10-year age bands. Also, the oldest group is 85+, so I used 85 as the lower bound and 90 as the lower bound.

Using that data, adjusted life years lost ranges from 891,356 years lost at the lower bound to -40,390 years lost at the upper bound. Using 78.5 as the US life expectancy, that's equivalent to -514.52 lifetimes at the upper bound and 11,354.85 lifetimes at the lower bound. This shows the huge elderly skew to the data. The mean of those two bounds is 5,420.17 lifetimes. That should not be confused with lives lost because this is equivalent to whole lives not lived.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:34 am to
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Using 78.5 as the US life expectancy,
Life expectancy changes with age (e.g., an 80 year old is expected to live to 88-89).

If you’re going to pull to provisional data, then why not pull the actuarial tables which are easy to as well instead of getting obviously nonsensical results which makes the analysis pointless? I mean even using the actuarial tables won’t be perfect, but what you did was just plain nonsensical.

Actuarial Tables

Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32842 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:35 am to
That’s all well and good but it tends to kee the life expectancy from trending upward as it should be, no?
Posted by Angry Bruce Pearl
Florida
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:11 am to
Florida reported fewer than 10k new cases for the second straight day. Positive testing percentage was down to 10.55%. It was above 15% last week and is now lower than Georgia's positive testing rate.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
2011 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:15 am to
Been thinking things might be turning for Florida. If this continues, deaths will start dropping in a week or so.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8194 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:18 am to
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If you’re going to pull to provisional data, then why not pull the actuarial tables which are easy to as well instead of getting obviously nonsensical results which makes the analysis pointless? I mean even using the actuarial tables won’t be perfect, but what you did was just plain nonsensical.


Settle down, dude. I would have been happy to re-run the numbers if you had not responded in such a hot-headed way. I was just trying to do some quick math and show my work so that people could help out with improvements.

Your criticism is merited. Using actuarial tables would improve the analysis, but if you are going to post your criticism, why not just offer your constructive criticism without being an a-hole about it?
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 11:20 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:40 am to
It’s impossible for him.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:12 pm to
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Settle down, dude.
I apologize for that. I’ve gotten frustrated with some goofballs on Twitter gaining popularity for their analyses who ignore and/or outright refuse to accept constructive criticism. Yet, you took my harsher criticism more constructively, so you didn’t deserve the harsh criticism.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95669 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:24 pm to
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without being an a-hole about it?


I don't want to pile on bv on this point as it is something I struggle with almost hourly.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8194 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

I apologize for that. I’ve gotten frustrated with some goofballs on Twitter gaining popularity for their analyses who ignore and/or outright refuse to accept constructive criticism. Yet, you took my harsher criticism more constructively, so you didn’t deserve the harsh criticism.


Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
2011 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 2:34 pm to
Looking like over 1000 deaths reported again today.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 2:35 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95669 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:27 pm to
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Looking like over 1000 deaths reported again today.


Meaningless, really, (with all due respect to CD and others working to make sense of things), until there are case numbers assigned, unique deaths can be calculated and tied to a specific date, AND some analysis of deaths FROM Wuhan (unambiguously), deaths WITH Wuhan (presumptively Wuhan-related), and deaths ALONGSIDE Wuhan (the bullshite numbers they are throwing in just because).

Frankly, the numbers appear to be more and more gibberish as we near the end of July. I'm open to being proven wrong, but just the frickery in Florida casts questions on the entire thing.

And importing Wuhan cases from Mexico seems like a bad strategy in the RGV, too.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
2011 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:29 pm to
Totally agree
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:38 pm to
No offense taken :)

I agree with you that the data sucks, but it's all we have at this point.
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
2011 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:48 pm to
Are you seeing a promising trend for Florida?
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:04 pm to
Not really.

Daily new cases have declined, but it's due to a decline in testing volume as you can see in the first graph below. The positivity rate appears to be mostly flat with a slight decline. The positivity rate did decline slightly for a little while but is ticking back up. (2nd chart)





The growth rate of new cases is down, but the growth rate of deaths is up.



Yesterday's new cases and deaths were the highest Tuesday yet for Florida.




Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
2011 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:08 pm to
It did stay level today. Might change a bit on positivity after today. I guess we can see after the info today goes in.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 4:11 pm
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13259 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:14 pm to
The 2 week federal program for "surge" testing that was going on in Florida, Texas and Louisiana is over now, I believe. I know in Louisiana they were shooting for an extra 5000 tests per day. They were having a hard time getting enough to take it so they were extending it until they were out of tests.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8170 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 4:19 pm to
The positivity rate for FL has been hanging out around 19% for about 2 weeks now. I agree it will be interesting to see today's numbers.
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