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Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:06 am to
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paper tablecovers thrown away after each patron and disposable menus

I pondered why we don't do that for every flu season


Environmentalists
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129624 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:18 am to
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I pondered why we don't do that for every flu season


Probably because it doesn’t make that big of a difference.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:26 am to
you dont think or you have data asserting as much?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:29 am to
I’m just jaded at this point. As I was looking over Missouri’s flu data last night, I realized we had about the expected number of deaths from the flu while our schools were closed and our state was shut down. We average about 90-100/wk during flu season, and we averaged that during the SAH order.

Lots of useful data will be there to be had on the other side of this grand social experiment.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:01 am to
I know there was some literature out there somewhere that said contact precautions don’t actually do anything beyond what washing your hands would do so I’m not surprised
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8289 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:42 am to
Blueboy, What is the source of that graphic?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 11:52 am to
I saw it on map porn on Reddit after a poster posted it here on TD.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29128 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:15 pm to
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What is the source of that graphic?
Social media.

The map is highly misleading. It is the style of a heat map, but it does not use a heat map scale. Also, the vast majority of the map can never be anything but green. One-third of the entire population is concentrated in ~70 counties out of 3,000. And the land area of those counties covers only 3.1% of the country. So if every single person dies, still only 3% of the map will be red.

It's just not useful information.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129624 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:20 pm to
There’s a helpful little bit on the right of this map that you hate. It breaks it out by population.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11949 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:46 pm to
Numbers for midday on a Tuesday looking pretty good (fingers crossed). Cautiously optimistic here.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74629 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:48 pm to
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Cautiously optimistic here.
I am a lot more than cautiously optimistic at this point.

We only had a 4% national positivity rate yesterday.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29128 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:49 pm to
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There’s a helpful little bit on the right of this map that you hate. It breaks it out by population.
Since when is it wrong to "hate" misleading information? This map is fake news. Aren't we supposed to hate that?

The information hinted at in the legend would have been better conveyed with a per capita heat map, and perhaps using the 3rd dimension to indicate population.

As is, the map is useless. It doesn't relate any meaningful information.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74629 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:50 pm to
it's not getting any press right now, but the rate at which our testing capacity is expanding is extremely impressive. up 40% weekly.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129624 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 12:51 pm to
Sure it does. The vast majority of deaths have taken place in a very concentrated area and in a very concentrated population. Not sure what you think is fake about that.

66% of the deaths occur in counties that make up 15% of the population and much, much less of the geographical landmass of the country. The second is less interesting than the first.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35406 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:03 pm to
Map looks legit to me, but I’m not a fan of the yellow being discontinuous like the red and green.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11949 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:04 pm to
Definitely going better. It's worth being cautious, though. There have been countries to come off lockdown only to go back on. My concern is that we may suffer through a long and difficult suppression to be followed by a weak mitigation that minimizes public confidence in safety and we get more deaths and less economic recovery than we could otherwise.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29128 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:07 pm to
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Sure it does. The vast majority of deaths have taken place in a very concentrated area and in a very concentrated population. Not sure what you think is fake about that.
It's fake because the guy who created it, u/rob0407, simply colored the counties as he saw fit. For example, LA county has more deaths than most of the ones he colored red, but he didn't make it red or even yellow because, and I quote, "that's not what I wanted to communicate". LINK

What he wanted to communicate was a misleading narrative.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129624 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:08 pm to
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Map looks legit to me, but I’m not a fan of the yellow being discontinuous like the red and green.


Yeah. I could understand that. It gives the appearance of cherry picking. They would have been better off keeping the yellow contiguous.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29128 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 1:13 pm to
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It gives the appearance of cherry picking
Not just the appearance. The guy who made it openly admits to cherry-picking.
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