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Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:10 pm to
It depends on which is capped: administering or running the test in the lab. Backlog shouldn’t necessarily matter if actually running the test is the limiting factor as some have suggested
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Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63853 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:15 pm to
quote:

It depends on which is capped: administering or running the test in the lab. Backlog shouldn’t necessarily matter if actually running the test is the limiting factor as some have suggested
Good point.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20609 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 5:08 am to
What happened in France yesterday with over a thousand deaths, was it just a catch up on reporting?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96151 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:13 am to
quote:

Backlog shouldn’t necessarily matter if actually running the test is the limiting factor as some have suggested


Not ultimately, but it may skew the numbers as to when the case was identified, when those folks were infected, those folks' incubation period, etc.

From a reporting standpoint, with such long delays, we would be in an interesting spot if the official tracking starts going back to correct past numbers (based on test samples taken up to 10 days ago - which might as well be a year ago in normal time) because folks will think that is hinky (and a moving, evolving number rather than fixed historical data for several weeks). Reporting them on the date the test is finally processed is going to skew new case (and, indirectly, new death) data to the "right" on the bell curve charts.

Hopefully we learn something after all these trillions of dollars, thousands of lives lost and millions ruined.

"Don't trust the Chinese" seems simultaneously rational and racist. That's the first bullet on my AAR, though.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8289 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:29 am to
According to the WoM site

NOTE ON FRANCE DATA:

On April 2, France reported 884 additional deaths that have occurred in nursing homes over the past days and weeks [source]. The French Government did not include these deaths in their official count, as their count only takes into consideration deaths of hospitalized patients. Following international standards of correct inclusion, our statistics will include these deaths, and will add them to the April 2, 2020 count following the attribution criteria of date of report.

If and when the French government determines and communicates the correct distribution of these additional deaths over time, we will adjust the historical data accordingly. A similar issue took place on February 12, when China reported an additional 13,332 new cases in a single day due to a change in how cases were diagnosed and reported in Hubei.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37392 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:48 am to
quote:

This begs the question:

If we are administering the same/similar amount of tests every day, why do we still get numerically more cases every day over the last raise?

Example: 20k cases one day, + 24k cases the next day. Both days had same amount of tests.

Are we getting better at identifying good candidates to test who are likely positive.....or is a higher proportion of the population getting infected every day. Or both
The larger the backlog, the more they prioritize high risk samples. Unfortunately some states in the rural midwest appear to be testing everyone so that their positive rate stays low.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
129629 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Unfortunately some states in the rural midwest appear to be testing everyone so that their positive rate stays low.


Lol
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25261 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:00 am to
And that wouldn't matter if the government used date of collection rather than date of report. But that dog is out of the bag.
Posted by uppermidwestbama
Member since Nov 2014
2097 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:12 am to
Slow start to the day so far. I suspect we see another decline in the case growth rate.

When you look at the total number of cases that have been confirmed, it's not even the size of Madison, Wisconsin. Then you have the rest of the country.

Sure it kills old people with health problems, but this isn't as bad as was originally thought by the experts.

The virus came in, moved from person to person very quickly, most people became asymptomatic, and it killed lots of people in NYC and New Jersey.

Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8289 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:18 am to
This is the link to the COVID-19 tracker that I have shared on Google Drive. Chromdome's COVID-19 Daily Tracker

The source for the data is https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The source for the testing data is from https://covidtracking.com/data/

On the tracker sheet you will see tabs for the following data:
1) US Summary
2) Country Comparables: This shows you how the US stacks up vs. select other countries dealing with COVID-19
3) Logarithmic Comparisons - Shows the US vs the other countries on the tracker.
4) Covid Vs Other Outbreaks - Compares the current COVID numbers to the last 10 years of flue and H1N1
5) US Weighted Averages - Explores 7 day vs 3 day weight average trends
6) Italy Summary
7) UK Summary
8) France Summary
9) Germany Summary
10) Sweden Summary
11) World Summary

NOTE: The daily growth rate data will not be accurate until the end of the day's postings. It will change throughout the day.
NOTE: I am not tracking individual states, I don't have a reliable consistent source for that data.
NOTE: I am not a mathematician, statistics guru, scientist, sharpest tack in the box, I'm just a guy who likes to understand for myself what is happening and to share it with others. This thread was not created to debate if you should or shouldn't take this seriously, it is simply to present the numbers and foster conversation.

NOTE: I have added a prediction number to the bottom of the data grid. This simply takes the previous days numbers and grows them at the previous day's growth rate. It should give the viewer some idea of what the numbers will look like today. Obviously, the final number for the day will be higher or lower based on what today's growth rate actualy is. This is just a simple indicator.









Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41574 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Unfortunately some states in the rural midwest appear to be testing everyone so that their positive rate stays low.


I’m trying to wrap my head around how anyone could think testing a larger number of folks is a bad idea?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37392 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:45 am to
quote:

I’m trying to wrap my head around how anyone could think testing a larger number of folks is a bad idea?
Its not when you have enough testing capacity to go around. Right now doctors in some states / hospitals have patients waiting days for test results while some states are testing anyone who has a runny nose.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40251 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 9:46 am to
A couple of people who reportedly work in a hospital (Louisiana) with covid pts says that they expect to see a spike in deaths.

What % of those on vents are estimated to not make it? I know that Louisiana as of yesterdays numbers had 507 on vents.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8521 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:10 am to
quote:

states


Sounds like a failure of state government to properly distribute tests.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:11 am to
quote:

What % of those on vents are estimated to not make it? I know that Louisiana as of yesterdays numbers had 507 on vents.


I think I saw 50% of people come off the ventilator in a good way.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66974 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:43 am to
quote:



is there any way you can make this by deaths? we are starting to get more relevant slope on the death front. would like to see.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63853 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 10:44 am to
quote:

From a reporting standpoint, with such long delays, we would be in an interesting spot if the official tracking starts going back to correct past numbers (based on test samples taken up to 10 days ago - which might as well be a year ago in normal time) because folks will think that is hinky (and a moving, evolving number rather than fixed historical data for several weeks). Reporting them on the date the test is finally processed is going to skew new case (and, indirectly, new death) data to the "right" on the bell curve charts.
Yeah. I think that'll be done at some point. We have to remember the data that's released is "retail" data. If I get some time today I may look for some raw data sources.
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8205 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:05 am to
Does anyone know of any attempts being made to perform statistically significant studies of both symptomatic and asymptomatic people? At some point, we need actual data on spread. Otherwise, we will be acting on assumptions in perpetuity.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8289 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:13 am to
It's on the tracker page

Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66974 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 11:25 am to
thank you chrome

i wanted to see slopes. now bear with me, i marked the hell out of this, but it would appear than it too is trending in a favorable direction since 3/18-3/24. yes i know there are reporting delays and weekends and such. but i just want something positive to take away from all of this.

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